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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
      last edited by

      @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

      So, I opened a ticket with A2 support:

      Me:
      reference: My internet connection is 150/150

      I uploaded 2 mp4 files ( 74 & 196 MB)
      Vultr upload took 10 secs.
      A2 upload took over 7 mins

      Downloading just the 196MB file:
      Vultr: 1 sec
      A2: 1 min.

      A few hours later, I tried the upload again:......speed wins
      Vultr: 17 seconds
      A2: 8 mins 27 secs

      Why are these speeds so poor?

      A2 Support:
      Thank you for contacting us. I would be happy to answer that question. We are not a file sharing service nor do we allow file sharing websites so our service is not optimized to feed that type of setup. From what I can tell this seems to be what you might be setting up as that is what Next Cloud is for. We do not allow this on our servers / we do not allow File Storage.

      Please do not setup a file sharing or backup or storage cloud on the server. I apologize for any confusion.

      Me:
      Are you serious?
      Why is NextCloud available to install in the Softaculous catalog? Why not remove it since you claim it is not allowed?

      A2:
      Thank you for your reply, I apologize for any confusion this has caused you. We offer our customers a variety of scripting using the Softaculous installer, as with all websites on our network the content of our customers sites must be in keeping with our Terms of Service and Acceptable Use Policy which prohibits :

      Audio/Video streaming (other than that which is incidental to a site's operation)
      Very large photo galleries
      Storage of a large amount of uncompressed or full-size digital images
      Online file (FTP) serving
      Distribution of large audio or video content such as MP3 files
      Online backups (i.e. backup of desktop/laptop computer, files, or anything not directly related to the website)

      https://www.a2hosting.com/about/policies/terms-of-service

      Holy crap what a load of BS. Add them to the list of "never ever use."

      Cloudways will have zero issue with that!

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee
        last edited by

        As much as I would love to move off A2 and use Cloudways, I've got a few things to consider:

        1. Domain name hosting
        2. DNS settings for my different domains
        3. Email accounts
        4. No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps
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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
          last edited by

          @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

          As much as I would love to move off A2 and use Cloudways, I've got a few things to consider:

          1. Domain name hosting

          That should never be tied to any other service. THat's your registrar and should have no technical role whatsoever. We use GoDaddy for this.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
            last edited by

            @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

            1. DNS settings for my different domains

            What is the concern there?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
              last edited by

              @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

              1. Email accounts

              You hosted email with your web host? You get a facepalm for that one.

              travisdh1T FATeknollogeeF 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                last edited by

                @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                1. No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps

                Sadly, that's a tough one. You either need to build your own (Vultr + cPanel/CWP + Softaculous) or you need a full on web hosting environment like ASO (not ASO, just like that.)

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                  @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                  1. Email accounts

                  You hosted email with your web host? You get a facepalm for that one.

                  You don't keep an image handy for facepalm?
                  alt text

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                    @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                    As much as I would love to move off A2 and use Cloudways, I've got a few things to consider:

                    1. Domain name hosting

                    That should never be tied to any other service. THat's your registrar and should have no technical role whatsoever. We use GoDaddy for this.

                    I use Hover (not A2) as my registrar. I then "manage" (not sure what the correct term is) them at A2

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                      @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                      1. DNS settings for my different domains

                      What is the concern there?

                      Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else

                      travisdh1T scottalanmillerS 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                        @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                        1. Email accounts

                        You hosted email with your web host? You get a facepalm for that one.

                        No facepalm...I have the critical ones with Office365 & I have a bunch of generic (aka free) with A2

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                          @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                          1. DNS settings for my different domains

                          What is the concern there?

                          Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else

                          Sounds like you'll have to do this anyway, or your service could randomly just stop. Which is worse, a planned move or an unplanned outage?

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                            @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                            1. No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps

                            Sadly, that's a tough one. You either need to build your own (Vultr + cPanel/CWP + Softaculous) or you need a full on web hosting environment like ASO (not ASO, just like that.)

                            There has to be a "great" version of ASO or A2???

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                              @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                              1. DNS settings for my different domains

                              What is the concern there?

                              Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else

                              But your DNS should never be tied to your hosting. So it's important that you move this anyway. It's trivial to move, though, and can be moved right now, not a part of any other move.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                1. Email accounts

                                You hosted email with your web host? You get a facepalm for that one.

                                No facepalm...I have the critical ones with Office365 & I have a bunch of generic (aka free) with A2

                                If it is important enough to worry about moving, it's important enough not to be tied to web hosting because it creates technical debt in the form of lock in. You listed it here as a concern, hence the point.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                  @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                  1. No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps

                                  Sadly, that's a tough one. You either need to build your own (Vultr + cPanel/CWP + Softaculous) or you need a full on web hosting environment like ASO (not ASO, just like that.)

                                  There has to be a "great" version of ASO or A2???

                                  Maybe there really is a market gap? Is that possible?

                                  FATeknollogeeF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                    @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                    @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                    1. No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps

                                    Sadly, that's a tough one. You either need to build your own (Vultr + cPanel/CWP + Softaculous) or you need a full on web hosting environment like ASO (not ASO, just like that.)

                                    There has to be a "great" version of ASO or A2???

                                    Maybe there really is a market gap? Is that possible?

                                    Maybe it exists & we just don't know who?

                                    scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                      @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                      1. DNS settings for my different domains

                                      What is the concern there?

                                      Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else

                                      But your DNS should never be tied to your hosting. So it's important that you move this anyway. It's trivial to move, though, and can be moved right now, not a part of any other move.

                                      Yes you are correct, this is an easy fix/move

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by

                                        @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                        @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                        @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                        1. No "one-click" install of some 3rd party apps

                                        Sadly, that's a tough one. You either need to build your own (Vultr + cPanel/CWP + Softaculous) or you need a full on web hosting environment like ASO (not ASO, just like that.)

                                        There has to be a "great" version of ASO or A2???

                                        Maybe there really is a market gap? Is that possible?

                                        Maybe it exists & we just don't know who?

                                        That's what I'm saying... seems impossible that this does not exist. It's not the hardest service to provide, but I never hear about anyone offering something really great.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                          last edited by

                                          @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                          @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                          @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                          1. DNS settings for my different domains

                                          What is the concern there?

                                          Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else

                                          But your DNS should never be tied to your hosting. So it's important that you move this anyway. It's trivial to move, though, and can be moved right now, not a part of any other move.

                                          Yes you are correct, this is an easy fix/move

                                          We use CloudFlare.

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                            @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                            @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                            @FATeknollogee said in Where Are You Running Nextcloud:

                                            1. DNS settings for my different domains

                                            What is the concern there?

                                            Concern is I would need to move this somewhere else

                                            But your DNS should never be tied to your hosting. So it's important that you move this anyway. It's trivial to move, though, and can be moved right now, not a part of any other move.

                                            Yes you are correct, this is an easy fix/move

                                            We use CloudFlare.

                                            You use the following (please complete/add to the list)

                                            1. Registrar: GD/Hover etc
                                            2. DNS:
                                            3. Mail
                                            4. Web hosting
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