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    Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack

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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @FATeknollogee
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      @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

      @stacksofplates said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

      @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

      Any ideas??

      What do you mean? Either change the Salt file to match public or change your default zone on the server.

      I know I can do that, I'm trying to figure out why the salt file isn't working for me (just the firewall portion) since it worked for everyone else

      I thought we figured out that it was the incorrect zone? If you change the zone in the salt file to public does it work?

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @stacksofplates
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        @stacksofplates said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

        I thought we figured out that it was the incorrect zone? If you change the zone in the salt file to public does it work?

        Yes that does work.
        I'm just trying to understand @scottalanmiller intent in creating the "FedoraServer" zone?

        @stacksofplates What ISO did you say used "FedoraServer" as it's default zone?
        I should grab a copy of that & try the install!

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee
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          Finally figured out what the "problem" is/was?

          It all works as stated in post #1 so long as you use the DVD ISO: https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/26/Server/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Server-dvd-x86_64-26-1.5.iso
          The default firewall zone with this ISO is "FedoraServer" (which is used in the salt config)

          With the Net install ISO: https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/26/Server/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-26-1.5.iso
          the default firewall zone is "public"

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            flaxking @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

            Why Fedora 25?

            Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

            And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

            Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @flaxking
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              @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

              @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

              Why Fedora 25?

              Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

              And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

              Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

              Why stay on Ubuntu?

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                flaxking @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                Why Fedora 25?

                Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

                And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

                Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

                Why stay on Ubuntu?

                Because I'm addicted to LXD. While I've heard you can install it on other OSes, I'm pretty sure I would run into some hiccups with things like the Salt LXD formula. So there would be some extra work ahead of me. Alternatively, I could try straight-up LXC or Docker, but that creates some learning prerequisites. Not that I don't like learning, it's just I have other things on the top of my learning priority list.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @flaxking
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                  @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                  @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                  Why Fedora 25?

                  Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

                  And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

                  Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

                  Why stay on Ubuntu?

                  Because I'm addicted to LXD. While I've heard you can install it on other OSes, I'm pretty sure I would run into some hiccups with things like the Salt LXD formula. So there would be some extra work ahead of me. Alternatively, I could try straight-up LXC or Docker, but that creates some learning prerequisites. Not that I don't like learning, it's just I have other things on the top of my learning priority list.

                  That doesn't explain it, though. You just install Fedora in your container.

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                    flaxking @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                    @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                    @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                    Why Fedora 25?

                    Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

                    And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

                    Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

                    Why stay on Ubuntu?

                    Because I'm addicted to LXD. While I've heard you can install it on other OSes, I'm pretty sure I would run into some hiccups with things like the Salt LXD formula. So there would be some extra work ahead of me. Alternatively, I could try straight-up LXC or Docker, but that creates some learning prerequisites. Not that I don't like learning, it's just I have other things on the top of my learning priority list.

                    That doesn't explain it, though. You just install Fedora in your container.

                    That's a good point, there's no reason why most of my containers couldn't be running Fedora. Mostly I was thinking about switching from Ubuntu to Fedora on my personal laptop first (since there's will be no reason for me to run Ubuntu Desktop without HUD), but it should be pretty simple to switch to fedora containers for my projects and production servers. Thanks for clearing my mind-block!

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @flaxking
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                      @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                      @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                      @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                      Why Fedora 25?

                      Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

                      And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

                      Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

                      Why stay on Ubuntu?

                      Because I'm addicted to LXD. While I've heard you can install it on other OSes, I'm pretty sure I would run into some hiccups with things like the Salt LXD formula. So there would be some extra work ahead of me. Alternatively, I could try straight-up LXC or Docker, but that creates some learning prerequisites. Not that I don't like learning, it's just I have other things on the top of my learning priority list.

                      That doesn't explain it, though. You just install Fedora in your container.

                      That's a good point, there's no reason why most of my containers couldn't be running Fedora. Mostly I was thinking about switching from Ubuntu to Fedora on my personal laptop first (since there's will be no reason for me to run Ubuntu Desktop without HUD), but it should be pretty simple to switch to fedora containers for my projects and production servers. Thanks for clearing my mind-block!

                      πŸ™‚ No problem. I do the same thing with Ubuntu as the container host, but we use Fedora for actual workloads.

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                      • FATeknollogeeF
                        FATeknollogee
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                        How do we incorporate LE SSLs with this?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                          last edited by

                          @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                          How do we incorporate LE SSLs with this?

                          They go on the Nginx proxy like normal. Nothing special to know here.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller And for those without a proxy?

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @FATeknollogee
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                              @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                              @scottalanmiller And for those without a proxy?

                              You can install nginx on the same server.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                @scottalanmiller And for those without a proxy?

                                Why would that ever happen?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Instead of finding a complicated way around the proxy, just do it right instead.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                                    @black3dynamite said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                    @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                    @scottalanmiller And for those without a proxy?

                                    You can install nginx on the same server.

                                    As the install instructions here do automatically.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller why install a proxy when Apaches here and working what is the benefit to having a proxy on the same server. Let’s Encrypt perfectly with Apache

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                        @jaredbusch said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                        @scottalanmiller why install a proxy when Apaches here and working what is the benefit to having a proxy on the same server. Let’s Encrypt perfectly with Apache

                                        At least I'm not the only one asking.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                          @dashrender said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                          @jaredbusch said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                          @scottalanmiller why install a proxy when Apaches here and working what is the benefit to having a proxy on the same server. Let’s Encrypt perfectly with Apache

                                          At least I'm not the only one asking.

                                          There are things that it does better than Apache, but I just don’t see what parts of a Nextcloud instance would benefit greatly by it

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @jaredbusch said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                            @scottalanmiller why install a proxy when Apaches here and working what is the benefit to having a proxy on the same server. Let’s Encrypt perfectly with Apache

                                            Security and flexibility typically. Here is the admitted marketing material from Nginx on security: "Security and anonymity – By intercepting requests headed for your backend servers, a reverse proxy server protects their identities and acts as an additional defense against security attacks. It also ensures that multiple servers can be accessed from a single record locator or URL regardless of the structure of your local area network."

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