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    Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack

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    • Reid CooperR
      Reid Cooper @stacksofplates
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      @stacksofplates said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

      @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

      @stacksofplates said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

      @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

      The default zone on my Fedora server install is "public"

      Where did you install from?

      Netinstall ISO off the Fedora website: https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/26/Server/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-26-1.5.iso

      Ah ok. So the net install uses public. The ISO with defaults sets it to FedoraServer.

      That's an odd difference for them to have introduced.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Reid Cooper
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        @reid-cooper said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

        @stacksofplates said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

        @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

        @stacksofplates said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

        @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

        The default zone on my Fedora server install is "public"

        Where did you install from?

        Netinstall ISO off the Fedora website: https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/26/Server/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-26-1.5.iso

        Ah ok. So the net install uses public. The ISO with defaults sets it to FedoraServer.

        That's an odd difference for them to have introduced.

        CentOS has had similar issues in the past. this is not really a surprise to me.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee
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          Any ideas??

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @FATeknollogee
            last edited by

            @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

            Any ideas??

            What do you mean? Either change the Salt file to match public or change your default zone on the server.

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @stacksofplates
              last edited by

              @stacksofplates said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

              @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

              Any ideas??

              What do you mean? Either change the Salt file to match public or change your default zone on the server.

              I know I can do that, I'm trying to figure out why the salt file isn't working for me (just the firewall portion) since it worked for everyone else

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @FATeknollogee
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                @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                @stacksofplates said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                Any ideas??

                What do you mean? Either change the Salt file to match public or change your default zone on the server.

                I know I can do that, I'm trying to figure out why the salt file isn't working for me (just the firewall portion) since it worked for everyone else

                I thought we figured out that it was the incorrect zone? If you change the zone in the salt file to public does it work?

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                • FATeknollogeeF
                  FATeknollogee @stacksofplates
                  last edited by

                  @stacksofplates said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                  I thought we figured out that it was the incorrect zone? If you change the zone in the salt file to public does it work?

                  Yes that does work.
                  I'm just trying to understand @scottalanmiller intent in creating the "FedoraServer" zone?

                  @stacksofplates What ISO did you say used "FedoraServer" as it's default zone?
                  I should grab a copy of that & try the install!

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee
                    last edited by

                    Finally figured out what the "problem" is/was?

                    It all works as stated in post #1 so long as you use the DVD ISO: https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/26/Server/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Server-dvd-x86_64-26-1.5.iso
                    The default firewall zone with this ISO is "FedoraServer" (which is used in the salt config)

                    With the Net install ISO: https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/26/Server/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-26-1.5.iso
                    the default firewall zone is "public"

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                      flaxking @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                      Why Fedora 25?

                      Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

                      And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

                      Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @flaxking
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                        @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                        Why Fedora 25?

                        Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

                        And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

                        Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

                        Why stay on Ubuntu?

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                          flaxking @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                          @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                          Why Fedora 25?

                          Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

                          And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

                          Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

                          Why stay on Ubuntu?

                          Because I'm addicted to LXD. While I've heard you can install it on other OSes, I'm pretty sure I would run into some hiccups with things like the Salt LXD formula. So there would be some extra work ahead of me. Alternatively, I could try straight-up LXC or Docker, but that creates some learning prerequisites. Not that I don't like learning, it's just I have other things on the top of my learning priority list.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @flaxking
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                            @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                            @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                            Why Fedora 25?

                            Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

                            And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

                            Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

                            Why stay on Ubuntu?

                            Because I'm addicted to LXD. While I've heard you can install it on other OSes, I'm pretty sure I would run into some hiccups with things like the Salt LXD formula. So there would be some extra work ahead of me. Alternatively, I could try straight-up LXC or Docker, but that creates some learning prerequisites. Not that I don't like learning, it's just I have other things on the top of my learning priority list.

                            That doesn't explain it, though. You just install Fedora in your container.

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                              flaxking @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                              @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                              @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                              Why Fedora 25?

                              Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

                              And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

                              Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

                              Why stay on Ubuntu?

                              Because I'm addicted to LXD. While I've heard you can install it on other OSes, I'm pretty sure I would run into some hiccups with things like the Salt LXD formula. So there would be some extra work ahead of me. Alternatively, I could try straight-up LXC or Docker, but that creates some learning prerequisites. Not that I don't like learning, it's just I have other things on the top of my learning priority list.

                              That doesn't explain it, though. You just install Fedora in your container.

                              That's a good point, there's no reason why most of my containers couldn't be running Fedora. Mostly I was thinking about switching from Ubuntu to Fedora on my personal laptop first (since there's will be no reason for me to run Ubuntu Desktop without HUD), but it should be pretty simple to switch to fedora containers for my projects and production servers. Thanks for clearing my mind-block!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @flaxking
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                                @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                @flaxking said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                Why Fedora 25?

                                Fedora 25 gives us PHP 7.1 for the latest in features and performance with NextCloud 11. We also get the latest MariaDB and Redis platforms. This helps to speed the overall platform and makes for a snappy experience that gets maximum benefits from a singularly tested and integrated base. The only package that we download and add onto the tested Fedora system here is NextCloud itself. Everything else is fully integrated by the Fedora team.

                                And Salt 2017.7.2 breaks pkgrepo.managed which would make it harder to add repos with newer versions 😞

                                Unfortunately I'm still doing everything on Ubuntu, which means I have to chase around trying to fulfill dependencies on newer versions that aren't in the default repos

                                Why stay on Ubuntu?

                                Because I'm addicted to LXD. While I've heard you can install it on other OSes, I'm pretty sure I would run into some hiccups with things like the Salt LXD formula. So there would be some extra work ahead of me. Alternatively, I could try straight-up LXC or Docker, but that creates some learning prerequisites. Not that I don't like learning, it's just I have other things on the top of my learning priority list.

                                That doesn't explain it, though. You just install Fedora in your container.

                                That's a good point, there's no reason why most of my containers couldn't be running Fedora. Mostly I was thinking about switching from Ubuntu to Fedora on my personal laptop first (since there's will be no reason for me to run Ubuntu Desktop without HUD), but it should be pretty simple to switch to fedora containers for my projects and production servers. Thanks for clearing my mind-block!

                                🙂 No problem. I do the same thing with Ubuntu as the container host, but we use Fedora for actual workloads.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee
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                                  How do we incorporate LE SSLs with this?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                    @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                    How do we incorporate LE SSLs with this?

                                    They go on the Nginx proxy like normal. Nothing special to know here.

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller And for those without a proxy?

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                                      • black3dynamiteB
                                        black3dynamite @FATeknollogee
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                                        @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                        @scottalanmiller And for those without a proxy?

                                        You can install nginx on the same server.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                          last edited by

                                          @fateknollogee said in Install NextCloud 11 on Fedora 25 with SaltStack:

                                          @scottalanmiller And for those without a proxy?

                                          Why would that ever happen?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Instead of finding a complicated way around the proxy, just do it right instead.

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