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    • XeLX
      XeL
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      Can I ask?? Is there still a possible way of recovering some files from a broken hand disk??

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      • thanksajdotcomT
        thanksajdotcom @XeL
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        @XeL What's going on with it?

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        • XeLX
          XeL @thanksajdotcom
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          @ajstringham the harddisk was exhausted or in other terms burnt.. is there a way to recover file from it??

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            Pol @XeL
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            @XeL none! There is no way to recover data from a burnt HD.

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              scottalanmiller @XeL
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              @XeL said:

              @ajstringham the harddisk was exhausted or in other terms burnt.. is there a way to recover file from it??

              There are many firms that do this work. It's called forensic recovery. It is very expensive but is pretty reliable.

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                scottalanmiller @Pol
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                @pol.darreljade said:

                @XeL none! There is no way to recover data from a burnt HD.

                It's actually pretty common.

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                • ?
                  A Former User
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                  depends on what you mean burned. actually burned? no. but if the drive physically died, there's a chance. I used Lazarus Data Recovery for a client way back. they have a "clean room" and physically remove the platters and reconstruct in a good HD chassis. it was 5-7K, but for him it was worth it.

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                  • XeLX
                    XeL
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                    FYI, it was burned from as the system overheats..

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @XeL
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                      @XeL said:

                      FYI, it was burned from as the system overheats..

                      How burned? A system overheating would normally cause only very minimal damage.

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @Pol
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                        @pol.darreljade said:

                        @XeL none! There is no way to recover data from a burnt HD.

                        Not true. How do you think they get the info off the black boxes from crashed planes? They do as @hubtech describes. Clean room and physically removing the discs, etc. It works but as @scottalanmiller said, it can be several thousand per drive.

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom @XeL
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                          @XeL This a server drive or a regular SATA drive?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                            @ajstringham said:

                            @pol.darreljade said:

                            @XeL none! There is no way to recover data from a burnt HD.

                            Not true. How do you think they get the info off the black boxes from crashed planes? They do as @hubtech describes. Clean room and physically removing the discs, etc. It works but as @scottalanmiller said, it can be several thousand per drive.

                            I don't believe that black boxes have hard drives. That would make no sense for something designed to be so reliable.

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                              thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller Then what would they have? They store data.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                @ajstringham said:

                                @scottalanmiller Then what would they have? They store data.

                                Disk drives are hardly the only means of storing data. In IT we don't use spinning disks in places where resilience is needed. Not even for laptops and desktops or tablets. Seems odd that an airplane would be less reliable than an iPad.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Popular Mechanics and Purdue Uni both state that solid state is used.
                                  http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/safety/air-france-flight-447s-black-box-how-it-works

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                                    thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller Ok, well it's a disk drive just not platters.

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                                    • RoguePacketR
                                      RoguePacket
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                                      Where there is the will (& funds), a recovery company can find a way.

                                      Thought DriveSavers still had their success stories bit, but not finding it just now. Did find their YouTube channel with some tidbits—

                                      • http://www.youtube.com/user/drivesavers?feature=watch
                                      • Related, http://www.drivesaversdatarecovery.com/company-info/customer-testimonials/
                                      • Also, http://gizmodo.com/388465/charred-hard-drive-from-space-shuttle-columbia-recovered-best-data-rescue-ever

                                      We have a standing DriveSavers contract for encrypted drive recovery. Only needed 2-3 times. Pricy, but hope the backup process gets motivated after such expenditures.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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                                        @ajstringham said:

                                        @scottalanmiller Ok, well it's a disk drive just not platters.

                                        Yes, but the physical nature of spinning disks was the issue. SSDs don't burn, not easily. You're point above was that because platters were used in airplanes that you assumed black boxes were going through forensic recovery and that that was a reliable process. But flight recorders do not use spinning rust as it is too fragile (and slow for their needs.)

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                                        • BudB
                                          Bud @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @ajstringham said:

                                          @scottalanmiller Ok, well it's a disk drive just not platters.

                                          Yes, but the physical nature of spinning disks was the issue. SSDs don't burn, not easily. You're point above was that because platters were used in airplanes that you assumed black boxes were going through forensic recovery and that that was a reliable process. But flight recorders do not use spinning rust as it is too fragile (and slow for their needs.)

                                          Those FDRs and CVRs have to be able to withstand a lot of shock and still retain the data. Prior to using the same tech that is available in SSDs, tape was used for a long time. Basically 8-track looking things. The more moving parts, the more potential for some kind of failure.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender
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                                            I used Drive savers last year for a drive - very spendy but the service was good and fast.

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