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    • dafyreD
      dafyre
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      If the Remix guys do this as well as they've done some of their other stuff, I could see it being a good thing. They already have some competition in this space...
      (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andromium/the-superbook-turn-your-smartphone-into-a-laptop-f)

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        Microsoft failed to do this with their stuff will see if anything ever are actually comes out of this with the system that is actually more widely used

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said in Remix OS Singularity:

          Microsoft failed to do this with their stuff will see if anything ever are actually comes out of this with the system that is actually more widely used

          That's the tough part. The idea is neat, but I sure don't see me using this myself, you know?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Remix OS Singularity:

            @JaredBusch said in Remix OS Singularity:

            Microsoft failed to do this with their stuff will see if anything ever are actually comes out of this with the system that is actually more widely used

            That's the tough part. The idea is neat, but I sure don't see me using this myself, you know?

            The problem I see with this is the desire for a large display and keyboard where ever you happen to be.

            what are the chances there will be one that's compatible with your gear? If there is any chance it won't be, you just bring your own laptop - issue solved.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in Remix OS Singularity:

              @scottalanmiller said in Remix OS Singularity:

              @JaredBusch said in Remix OS Singularity:

              Microsoft failed to do this with their stuff will see if anything ever are actually comes out of this with the system that is actually more widely used

              That's the tough part. The idea is neat, but I sure don't see me using this myself, you know?

              The problem I see with this is the desire for a large display and keyboard where ever you happen to be.

              what are the chances there will be one that's compatible with your gear? If there is any chance it won't be, you just bring your own laptop - issue solved.

              Right. Once I need to carry a special phone, special adapters, a fold out keyboard a portable mouse and so forth it seems like it would still be too unreliable compared to just using a laptop. I can see this being useful for "somebody" but for many people, no. Now, that said, lots of people don't have computers anymore and this might be an upgrade for those people - that makes sense to me. But replacing existing computers? That I don't see.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in Remix OS Singularity:

                @scottalanmiller said in Remix OS Singularity:

                @JaredBusch said in Remix OS Singularity:

                Microsoft failed to do this with their stuff will see if anything ever are actually comes out of this with the system that is actually more widely used

                That's the tough part. The idea is neat, but I sure don't see me using this myself, you know?

                The problem I see with this is the desire for a large display and keyboard where ever you happen to be.

                what are the chances there will be one that's compatible with your gear? If there is any chance it won't be, you just bring your own laptop - issue solved.

                Or bring your Superbook! (see link above).

                Arguably, another company tried something similar (Motorola, wasn't it?) and I can't remember if it was just poorly done, or too far ahead of its time, lol.

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                  aidan_walsh @dafyre
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                  @dafyre said in Remix OS Singularity:

                  Arguably, another company tried something similar (Motorola, wasn't it?) and I can't remember if it was just poorly done, or too far ahead of its time, lol.

                  Canonical had a go too IIRC.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre said in Remix OS Singularity:

                    @Dashrender said in Remix OS Singularity:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Remix OS Singularity:

                    @JaredBusch said in Remix OS Singularity:

                    Microsoft failed to do this with their stuff will see if anything ever are actually comes out of this with the system that is actually more widely used

                    That's the tough part. The idea is neat, but I sure don't see me using this myself, you know?

                    The problem I see with this is the desire for a large display and keyboard where ever you happen to be.

                    what are the chances there will be one that's compatible with your gear? If there is any chance it won't be, you just bring your own laptop - issue solved.

                    Or bring your Superbook! (see link above).

                    Arguably, another company tried something similar (Motorola, wasn't it?) and I can't remember if it was just poorly done, or too far ahead of its time, lol.

                    Or just a generally bad idea. New tech for low end users with no high end use cases is really tough. To enter the commodity market you either need cheap, gamers or corporate power users to push the products and work their way down to commodity. None of those categories apply here. So it is really hard to get adoption because the only people who know about it or understand it are the people for whom it is not a useful product.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      I'm wondering if it's even worth while in a business arena.

                      User needs to be able to work from home just as much as they do in the office. The business buys them this phone, two KVM setups (one for the office, the other for home).

                      Now his applications are always with him. I suppose this is doable. He data could now always be with him as well - but that brings about it's own risk, so the data should really be in the cloud/hosted with access via internet.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Remix OS Singularity:

                        I'm wondering if it's even worth while in a business arena.

                        That's what I was saying. I think it's a pretty big "no". I mean there must be an exception, but in any quantity I just cannot imagine it.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in Remix OS Singularity:

                          User needs to be able to work from home just as much as they do in the office. The business buys them this phone, two KVM setups (one for the office, the other for home).

                          Now his applications are always with him. I suppose this is doable. He data could now always be with him as well - but that brings about it's own risk, so the data should really be in the cloud/hosted with access via internet.

                          Much like a laptop today. But laptops are so much more usable. And consider buying keyboard, mouse and monitor for two locations. That's not free. Then add in the cost of the phone. Two monitors, two keyboards, two mice and a special phone.... will that cost less than an equally powerful laptop? And how many workers will be happy with that? They will have to have a desk at work and a desk at home that are set up like offices... but are useless anytime that the phone is not there so at least half the time each is wasted space. And if riding the train, visiting relatives or working in a hotel their phone won't have those pieces. The laptop is so much more broadly useful, and I bet cheaper and safer. Phones get dropped and broken much more often than laptops.

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                          • CloudKnightC
                            CloudKnight
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                            It could work for business for BOD, most companies provide a phone for business anyway. They would obviously still need to provide a screen keyboard and mouse though.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              For the cost of a good phone, you can often get users a desktop at work and a desktop at home, each with way more power, too. So many options that do what the phone will often do, but better. Not 100% of the time, but easily 90% of the time.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                I completely agree Scott.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @CloudKnight
                                  last edited by

                                  @StuartJordan said in Remix OS Singularity:

                                  It could work for business for BOD, most companies provide a phone for business anyway. They would obviously still need to provide a screen keyboard and mouse though.

                                  Not many provide phones. Some do, but not the average.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    The biggest issue I see with this has already been mentioned.

                                    You'd need double everything desktop wise for it to be operable. I don't want that. I'd just sooner use a laptop, than need everything else for a separate desktop.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Remix OS Singularity:

                                      @StuartJordan said in Remix OS Singularity:

                                      It could work for business for BOD, most companies provide a phone for business anyway. They would obviously still need to provide a screen keyboard and mouse though.

                                      Not many provide phones. Some do, but not the average.

                                      Assuming the business doesn't supply a phone, then you above statement is on track, but if they do supply a phone, then the two monitors/keyboard/mouse could be less expensive..

                                      But as you mentioned, completely removes the flexibility that a laptop offers.

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                                      • CloudKnightC
                                        CloudKnight @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller very true, but that would normally be separate desktops, separate apps, unless you are using a hosted desktop but that won't always be the case.

                                        Some people rather have a smaller device then having a laptop on their desktop plus external screen, I cannot stand working on a laptop really.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Remix OS Singularity:

                                          The biggest issue I see with this has already been mentioned.

                                          You'd need double everything desktop wise for it to be operable. I don't want that. I'd just sooner use a laptop, than need everything else for a separate desktop.

                                          Now this I can't agree with.

                                          If I'm going to be working at home regularly - I pretty much need a full sized monitor/mouse/keyboard setup.

                                          Heck if i was pulling a scott, I'd be half tempted to purchase a full size monitor and keyboard in each major location he stays for a month or more, then sell/donate the equipment when I leave.
                                          Of course it would all be connected to the laptop I'm taking with me.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
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                                            I've got a 17" display on my laptop.

                                            And my laptop will blow any phone off of the planet in performance.

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