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    • Bill KindleB
      Bill Kindle @NetworkNerd
      last edited by

      @NetworkNerd you could always clone / backup the VM prior to updating the hardware level just to test. Couldn't hurt.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Put it on VirtualBox and you'll get RDP back.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          What about pcoip.

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          • alexntgA
            alexntg
            last edited by

            If you use the VM's console, do you get the same video issues?

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            • alexntgA
              alexntg @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said:

              Put it on VirtualBox and you'll get RDP back.

              The hypervisor isn't preventing RDP.

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              • G
                Gabi
                last edited by Gabi

                I've had this.

                I resolved it by removing vmware tools. Rebooting. Installing the latest version of vmware tools.

                Thanks,

                G

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @alexntg
                  last edited by

                  @alexntg said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Put it on VirtualBox and you'll get RDP back.

                  The hypervisor isn't preventing RDP.

                  Didn't imply that it was. But it isn't providing it either. VirtualBox provides RDP directly from the hypervisors so no OS level lock out will do anything. Console redirect to RDP!!

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                  • alexntgA
                    alexntg @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @alexntg said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Put it on VirtualBox and you'll get RDP back.

                    The hypervisor isn't preventing RDP.

                    Didn't imply that it was. But it isn't providing it either. VirtualBox provides RDP directly from the hypervisors so no OS level lock out will do anything. Console redirect to RDP!!

                    Ok. How does one do that without nesting VMs?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @alexntg
                      last edited by

                      @alexntg said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @alexntg said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Put it on VirtualBox and you'll get RDP back.

                      The hypervisor isn't preventing RDP.

                      Didn't imply that it was. But it isn't providing it either. VirtualBox provides RDP directly from the hypervisors so no OS level lock out will do anything. Console redirect to RDP!!

                      Ok. How does one do that without nesting VMs?

                      Just select the RDP option instead of the VNC option when downloading VirtualBox. Remote console redirection is native to VirtualBox and Xen. There is nothing special to know.

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                      • alexntgA
                        alexntg @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @alexntg said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @alexntg said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Put it on VirtualBox and you'll get RDP back.

                        The hypervisor isn't preventing RDP.

                        Didn't imply that it was. But it isn't providing it either. VirtualBox provides RDP directly from the hypervisors so no OS level lock out will do anything. Console redirect to RDP!!

                        Ok. How does one do that without nesting VMs?

                        Just select the RDP option instead of the VNC option when downloading VirtualBox. Remote console redirection is native to VirtualBox and Xen. There is nothing special to know.

                        Let me rephrase; you're suggesting running VirtualBox inside of ESXI?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @alexntg
                          last edited by

                          @alexntg said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @alexntg said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @alexntg said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Put it on VirtualBox and you'll get RDP back.

                          The hypervisor isn't preventing RDP.

                          Didn't imply that it was. But it isn't providing it either. VirtualBox provides RDP directly from the hypervisors so no OS level lock out will do anything. Console redirect to RDP!!

                          Ok. How does one do that without nesting VMs?

                          Just select the RDP option instead of the VNC option when downloading VirtualBox. Remote console redirection is native to VirtualBox and Xen. There is nothing special to know.

                          Let me rephrase; you're suggesting running VirtualBox inside of ESXI?

                          No. Why would want to do that?

                          You're making something incredibly simple into something really complicated.

                          Just install CentOS. Toss on VBox with RDP. Done. VBox handles everything. No weird nesting. No reading in something odd. Just a normal VBox install.

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                          • alexntgA
                            alexntg @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @alexntg said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @alexntg said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @alexntg said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Put it on VirtualBox and you'll get RDP back.

                            The hypervisor isn't preventing RDP.

                            Didn't imply that it was. But it isn't providing it either. VirtualBox provides RDP directly from the hypervisors so no OS level lock out will do anything. Console redirect to RDP!!

                            Ok. How does one do that without nesting VMs?

                            Just select the RDP option instead of the VNC option when downloading VirtualBox. Remote console redirection is native to VirtualBox and Xen. There is nothing special to know.

                            Let me rephrase; you're suggesting running VirtualBox inside of ESXI?

                            No. Why would want to do that?

                            You're making something incredibly simple into something really complicated.

                            Just install CentOS. Toss on VBox with RDP. Done. VBox handles everything. No weird nesting. No reading in something odd. Just a normal VBox install.

                            That's insane. No one should be running their production environment on VirtualBox. Replacing ESXi with that would result in a drop in performance, and it's not a Veeam-supported hypervisor.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @alexntg
                              last edited by

                              @alexntg we are talking about running one XP desktop here. Keep some perspective.

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                              • alexntgA
                                alexntg @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @alexntg we are talking about running one XP desktop here. Keep some perspective.

                                It's currently a VM running in an otherwise fine server architecture. You're suggesting adding another piece of hardware and a different virtualization platform for a minor video issue.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @alexntg
                                  last edited by

                                  @alexntg said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @alexntg we are talking about running one XP desktop here. Keep some perspective.

                                  It's currently a VM running in an otherwise fine server architecture. You're suggesting adding another piece of hardware and a different virtualization platform for a minor video issue.

                                  And a major licensing issue.

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                                  • alexntgA
                                    alexntg @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @alexntg said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @alexntg we are talking about running one XP desktop here. Keep some perspective.

                                    It's currently a VM running in an otherwise fine server architecture. You're suggesting adding another piece of hardware and a different virtualization platform for a minor video issue.

                                    And a major licensing issue.

                                    All it takes is a single SA subscription or VDA license to fix. That's not major. The issue would still exist on VirtualBox.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @alexntg
                                      last edited by

                                      @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

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                                      • alexntgA
                                        alexntg @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                                        To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @alexntg
                                          last edited by

                                          @alexntg said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                                          To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

                                          So you can't remote into a VM on your own desktop?

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                                          • alexntgA
                                            alexntg @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @alexntg said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @alexntg Is VDA still needed on a 1:1 scenario?

                                            To start with, yes. The accessing device must be covered by either SA or VDA. If a Companion Subscription License (CSL) is added on to the VDA or SA for a user's primary device, they're able to use up to 4 additional devices to access the virtual OSE.

                                            So you can't remote into a VM on your own desktop?

                                            Without SA or VDA licensing, there's no licensed usage of a Windows desktop OS on a VM, even if on your local machine. This is the reason I have SA on my home computer.

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