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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      Those are firewall appliances not firewall software. You don't install firewalls on any OS. All usable operating systems have firewalls built in. You simply use the OS.

      All of those products you list are just an OS and the built in firewall. None of them add something new.

      In the case of Linux, the firewall is IPTables.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Firewalld and UFW are just tools for managing IPTables. CentOS uses Firewalld, Ubuntu uses UFW - but they are just management tools.

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        • LakshmanaL
          Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller where these appliances used?
          In enterprise level only??

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            VyOS is extremely similar to EdgeOS used in Ubiquiti firewalls. They are both forks of Vyatta.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
              last edited by

              @Lakshmana said in Open source Firewall:

              @scottalanmiller where these appliances used?
              In enterprise level only??

              No, opposite. Most verge on hobby systems. VyOS is very enterprise, we use it in our big data center. That's shared code with Brocade and Ubiquiti.

              pfSense is FreeBSD / pf based and very good. But more or less an enterprise would never build their own firewalls. You buy appliances for that.

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              • LakshmanaL
                Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Open source Firewall:

                @Lakshmana said in Open source Firewall:

                @scottalanmiller where these appliances used?
                In enterprise level only??

                No, opposite. Most verge on hobby systems. VyOS is very enterprise, we use it in our big data center. That's shared code with Brocade and Ubiquiti.

                pfSense is FreeBSD / pf based and very good. But more or less an enterprise would never build their own firewalls. You buy appliances for that.

                What is brocade and ubiquitous words used here??

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  With really good firewalls from Ubiquiti being so cheap and using EdgeOS the entire concept of making your own firewall is basically historical only. There is no value to it today outside of the educational value.

                  The one rare exception is VyOS on large rack servers for cases where you need extreme throuput on a budget.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                    last edited by

                    @Lakshmana said in Open source Firewall:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Open source Firewall:

                    @Lakshmana said in Open source Firewall:

                    @scottalanmiller where these appliances used?
                    In enterprise level only??

                    No, opposite. Most verge on hobby systems. VyOS is very enterprise, we use it in our big data center. That's shared code with Brocade and Ubiquiti.

                    pfSense is FreeBSD / pf based and very good. But more or less an enterprise would never build their own firewalls. You buy appliances for that.

                    What is brocade and ubiquitous words used here??

                    Brocade and Ubiquiti are firewall vendors. Brocade makes very large enterprise gear like Juniper. Ubiquiti we talk about daily in here. It is nearly the only network gear we recommend for small business any more - it is so good and so cheap that nothing competes with it.

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                      Francesco Provino @Lakshmana
                      last edited by Francesco Provino

                      @Lakshmana said in Open source Firewall:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Open source Firewall:

                      @Lakshmana said in Open source Firewall:

                      @scottalanmiller where these appliances used?
                      In enterprise level only??

                      No, opposite. Most verge on hobby systems. VyOS is very enterprise, we use it in our big data center. That's shared code with Brocade and Ubiquiti.

                      pfSense is FreeBSD / pf based and very good. But more or less an enterprise would never build their own firewalls. You buy appliances for that.

                      What is brocade and ubiquitous words used here??

                      Brocade is one of the top player in the networking world. They buy Vyatta and make their own (mostly closed source) version of the Vyatta appliance.

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                        Francesco Provino @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Open source Firewall:

                        @Lakshmana said in Open source Firewall:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Open source Firewall:

                        @Lakshmana said in Open source Firewall:

                        @scottalanmiller where these appliances used?
                        In enterprise level only??

                        No, opposite. Most verge on hobby systems. VyOS is very enterprise, we use it in our big data center. That's shared code with Brocade and Ubiquiti.

                        pfSense is FreeBSD / pf based and very good. But more or less an enterprise would never build their own firewalls. You buy appliances for that.

                        What is brocade and ubiquitous words used here??

                        Brocade and Ubiquiti are firewall vendors. Brocade makes very large enterprise gear like Juniper. Ubiquiti we talk about daily in here. It is nearly the only network gear we recommend for small business any more - it is so good and so cheap that nothing competes with it.

                        Agree, Ubiquity stuff is good and cheap. You can replace a 3k€ Cisco 5510 with a 400€ ER-8.

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                        • LakshmanaL
                          Lakshmana
                          last edited by

                          Whether these firewall os are able to test in VM machine?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                            last edited by

                            @Lakshmana said in Open source Firewall:

                            Whether these firewall os are able to test in VM machine?

                            No, they are hardware. If you want to run a firewall in a VM, VyOS is the obvious choice. pfSense is kind of okay.

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                            • LakshmanaL
                              Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by Lakshmana

                              @scottalanmiller as checked providing the link for future reference
                              http://packages.vyos.net/iso/release/1.1.7/

                              https://www.pfsense.org/download/

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                              • Reid CooperR
                                Reid Cooper
                                last edited by

                                pfSense was really good in the past. But I agree, the days of building your own firewall on an old PC that you have are over.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @Reid Cooper
                                  last edited by

                                  @Reid-Cooper said in Open source Firewall:

                                  pfSense was really good in the past. But I agree, the days of building your own firewall on an old PC that you have are over.

                                  Right - the cost just isn't worth running your old PC. Power alone will cost more than the cost of an ER-X or ER-L.

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