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    • KellyK
      Kelly
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      The Reg has an interesting article talking about SQL Server on Linux, containers on Azure, and Linux on Windows 10: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/09/microsoft_eye_from_the_linux_guy/. Here's one of my favorite lines from the article: "Microsoft's Azure platform happens to support all the popular choices right now: DC/OS, Docker Swarm and Kubernetes, which makes Azure a compelling option for a very un-Microsoft reason: choice."

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        No Linux on Windows. There is Ubuntu/Windows... but it is specifically not Linux. All Linux was removed to make it just an alternative window dressing for Windows.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Does SCO Group really take top honours, when it was Microsoft funding them? It was well known that they were just a front for Ballmer at the time.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            "And believe it or not, Azure is actually pretty nice. My experience is limited to a single client, but Azure has been stable"... apparently he's never been to an Azure conference. Stability is a key concern.

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            • KellyK
              Kelly
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              You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

                LOL. Actually the article does point out that there is no Linux on Windows, it's just way down. He breaks it down that it is just GNU and a few other tools on top of Windows.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  SQL Server on Linux is a really big deal that I've been excited about for a while. I rarely want to see a Windows server, but SQL Server is a really excellent product. Normal enterprise database teams struggle with SQL Server as a one off because they need to engage a different systems support team to work with it. And systems teams struggle with it because it is their only Windows database product.

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                  • KellyK
                    Kelly @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                    No Linux on Windows. There is Ubuntu/Windows... but it is specifically not Linux. All Linux was removed to make it just an alternative window dressing for Windows.

                    You're not wrong, but you're fighting common usage. It is like trying to get people to call your edge device the router and firewall, not just the firewall.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                      @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                      No Linux on Windows. There is Ubuntu/Windows... but it is specifically not Linux. All Linux was removed to make it just an alternative window dressing for Windows.

                      You're not wrong, but you're fighting common usage. It is like trying to get people to call your edge device the router and firewall, not just the firewall.

                      But it is REALLY important. Calling the router just the firewall isn't "wrong", it's incomplete. Calling it Linux on Windows is absolutely wrong. In one case, it's accurate, in one it is not. It's incredibly important for everyone in IT to clearly now what an OS is and when they are using it 🙂

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @Kelly
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                        @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                        You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

                        Is today the first time you've met @scottalanmiller ????

                        🙂

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                        • KellyK
                          Kelly @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                          @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                          No Linux on Windows. There is Ubuntu/Windows... but it is specifically not Linux. All Linux was removed to make it just an alternative window dressing for Windows.

                          You're not wrong, but you're fighting common usage. It is like trying to get people to call your edge device the router and firewall, not just the firewall.

                          But it is REALLY important. Calling the router just the firewall isn't "wrong", it's incomplete. Calling it Linux on Windows is absolutely wrong. In one case, it's accurate, in one it is not. It's incredibly important for everyone in IT to clearly now what an OS is and when they are using it 🙂

                          So would you call it BASH on Windows or Ubuntu on Windows?

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                          • KellyK
                            Kelly @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                            @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                            You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

                            Is today the first time you've met @scottalanmiller ????

                            🙂

                            What is hilarious is how surprised people are when they meet him in person and find out that he is a really easy going guy for the most part.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @Kelly
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                              @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                              @BRRABill said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                              @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                              You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

                              Is today the first time you've met @scottalanmiller ????

                              🙂

                              What is hilarious is how surprised people are when they meet him in person and find out that he is a really easy going guy for the most part.

                              I have mentioned that to him.

                              He argues the same way, but it just feels so different in person.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22
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                                I never had that impression of him honestly. He's always been very helpful and easy going in regards to me.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                                  @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                  @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                  No Linux on Windows. There is Ubuntu/Windows... but it is specifically not Linux. All Linux was removed to make it just an alternative window dressing for Windows.

                                  You're not wrong, but you're fighting common usage. It is like trying to get people to call your edge device the router and firewall, not just the firewall.

                                  But it is REALLY important. Calling the router just the firewall isn't "wrong", it's incomplete. Calling it Linux on Windows is absolutely wrong. In one case, it's accurate, in one it is not. It's incredibly important for everyone in IT to clearly now what an OS is and when they are using it 🙂

                                  So would you call it BASH on Windows or Ubuntu on Windows?

                                  There is an Ubuntu/Windows (the use of "on" is unclear, as it is not actually Ubuntu itself) and there is BASH on Ubuntu/WIndows. And there has always been a BASH that is actually on Windows, that is unrelated to this new one.

                                  BASH from Microsoft runs ONLY on their Ubuntu container and doesn't interact with the main Windows system. But the only thing it does talk to is Windows in the container.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                                    @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                    @BRRABill said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                    @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                    You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

                                    Is today the first time you've met @scottalanmiller ????

                                    🙂

                                    What is hilarious is how surprised people are when they meet him in person and find out that he is a really easy going guy for the most part.

                                    LOL, it's true, I get that a lot.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                      @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                      @BRRABill said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                      @Kelly said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                      You're quite the ray of sunshine today @scottalanmiller.

                                      Is today the first time you've met @scottalanmiller ????

                                      🙂

                                      What is hilarious is how surprised people are when they meet him in person and find out that he is a really easy going guy for the most part.

                                      I have mentioned that to him.

                                      He argues the same way, but it just feels so different in person.

                                      Yeah, to me it's a consistent experience.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        LOL, the SAM Experience.

                                        It's the newest ride at Universal Studios.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                          @wirestyle22 said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                          I never had that impression of him honestly. He's always been very helpful and easy going in regards to me.

                                          I get that a lot, too. One person will see the same conversation as really aggressive, and the next doesn't see it at all. Of course, to me, it's just a normal conversation. This is how I interact with my wife, kids, my dad, etc.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Interesting article on Linux and Microsoft:

                                            I never had that impression of him honestly. He's always been very helpful and easy going in regards to me.

                                            I get that a lot, too. One person will see the same conversation as really aggressive, and the next doesn't see it at all. Of course, to me, it's just a normal conversation. This is how I interact with my wife, kids, my dad, etc.

                                            Well, context is extremely important to me. I'm sure I would be very negatively affected by seeing someone murdered yet I saw a lot of gruesome things in the operating room that didn't bother me because I knew the objective was to help.

                                            I know that your objective is to help me regardless of what you are saying or how you are saying it.

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