MSP charged with extortion
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.
I didn't believe this until working at the law firm I work at now that mainly defends businesses. It is absolutely horrible what happens to businesses, especially SMBs.
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@penguinwrangler said in MSP charged with extortion:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.
I didn't believe this until working at the law firm I work at now that mainly defends businesses. It is absolutely horrible what happens to businesses, especially SMBs.
Yeah, there is no protection for ordinary people in America. The law isn't there to protect people, it is a weapon of the rich and powerful.
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
@penguinwrangler said in MSP charged with extortion:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.
I didn't believe this until working at the law firm I work at now that mainly defends businesses. It is absolutely horrible what happens to businesses, especially SMBs.
Yeah, there is no protection for ordinary people in America. The law isn't there to protect people, it is a weapon of the rich and powerful.
We are unfortunately becoming more and more a police state ...
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@irj said in MSP charged with extortion:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
@penguinwrangler said in MSP charged with extortion:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.
I didn't believe this until working at the law firm I work at now that mainly defends businesses. It is absolutely horrible what happens to businesses, especially SMBs.
Yeah, there is no protection for ordinary people in America. The law isn't there to protect people, it is a weapon of the rich and powerful.
We are a police state ...
ftfy
Unlike most, I know the how and when it actually happened. Won't get into that here tho.
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@travisdh1 said in MSP charged with extortion:
@irj said in MSP charged with extortion:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
@penguinwrangler said in MSP charged with extortion:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.
I didn't believe this until working at the law firm I work at now that mainly defends businesses. It is absolutely horrible what happens to businesses, especially SMBs.
Yeah, there is no protection for ordinary people in America. The law isn't there to protect people, it is a weapon of the rich and powerful.
We are a police state ...
ftfy
Unlike most, I know the how and when it actually happened. Won't get into that here tho.
It seems like we tend to agree on things...
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@travisdh1 I'm curious how you how and when "it" actually happened? I don't know you.
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@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@travisdh1 I'm curious how you how and when "it" actually happened? I don't know you.
he's talking about the police state, I think.
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@scottalanmiller Okay.
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Of course you can shut off services for non-payment. The BIG caveat here is Office 365, its not the MSP's service and during your Cloud Partner training with Microsoft you have to specifically illustrate that you understand this on the tests.
Even with the CSP program where you are directly billing the customer, you can not just reset their passwords and shut them off. You can stop paying and they can login to start their own subscription.
It reads as if he shut off access by resetting their Office 365 passwords.
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@bigbear said in MSP charged with extortion:
Of course you can shut off services for non-payment.
Not in Georgia. Your rights are not spelled out by the law.
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
@bigbear said in MSP charged with extortion:
Of course you can shut off services for non-payment.
Not in Georgia. Your rights are not spelled out by the law.
I'm just dumbfounded by shit like this.
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
@bigbear said in MSP charged with extortion:
Of course you can shut off services for non-payment.
Not in Georgia. Your rights are not spelled out by the law.
I always had a well defined exit clause in IT contracts, but this was long before the days of the Cloud. Twice I have had a customer exit, and it was a very smooth transition. One even came back to us later.
The customer always had access to their own backups and the servers were on premise, so these were different times.
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@dashrender said in MSP charged with extortion:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
@bigbear said in MSP charged with extortion:
Of course you can shut off services for non-payment.
Not in Georgia. Your rights are not spelled out by the law.
I'm just dumbfounded by shit like this.
Maybe you missed... Georgia.
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@dashrender said in MSP charged with extortion:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
@bigbear said in MSP charged with extortion:
Of course you can shut off services for non-payment.
Not in Georgia. Your rights are not spelled out by the law.
I'm just dumbfounded by shit like this.
Georgia is FUCKED. Don't get it twisted. Plus, Forsyth County can eat all the dicks.... they are a long standing bit of ridiculous. I feel really bad that Jim got fucked over like that.
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Was the $78,000 that they "owed" past due, or was that the amount remaining on the contract? I wonder how many months behind they were and what notices had been sent out. I'm wondering how I would handle a situation like that if it ever came up.
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@mike-davis said in MSP charged with extortion:
Was the $78,000 that they "owed" past due, or was that the amount remaining on the contract? I wonder how many months behind they were and what notices had been sent out. I'm wondering how I would handle a situation like that if it ever came up.
At some point in one of these threads, maybe not on ML, most of those details were listed out. The details as we had originally seen them (it's quite some time now) there wasn't any grey area at all. They hadn't been paying, they weren't going to pay, they were outright trying to steal from him, they had loads and loads of warning... and when they weren't able to steal through pressure, they turned to corrupt government workers that, I assume, they bribed to up the extortion level beyond what he could take.
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It was remainder of contract. They canceled early.
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@jaredbusch said in MSP charged with extortion:
It was remainder of contract. They canceled early.
But, without a cancellation clause, which isn't exactly cancelling early but simply refusing to pay for what they had purchased, is my understanding. Contracts are like that, if the total due and the total service were done as a single entity or the pricing and service based on the total of the contract, it's not cancelling early. They might see it that way, but if the contract doesn't have a cancellation option, it's just not honoring the contract.
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@jimk any news, has anything happened?
