MSP charged with extortion
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@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.
BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.
Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?
Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.
No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.
As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?
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@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.
BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.
Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?
Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.
No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.
As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?
He's been gone for a while. But not as long as you
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@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.
BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.
Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?
Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.
No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.
As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?
Nope. It was pretty easy. A CM deleted a post, and I disagreed with him, and at the end of the discussion, when I said I'd leave if not treated better, he indicated that wouldn't be a problem, and he did it with an alarming quickness. It's that last bit, where it was so fast, that made me realize how much value they place on their core users today. Ergo, I'm not a core user.
I still wear the shirts and polos. Those are some quality cotton threads and clothes can be expensive. Of course, if there were a trade-in program to get Manglolassi or other brands, and they had equal quality, I'd jump at that.
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.
BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.
Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?
Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.
No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.
As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?
He's been gone for a while. But not as long as you
There are a few of us who don't SW anymore.... Because they decided to start treating certain people like garbage. So f@ck them in their marketing holes... but mostly that one mod.
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@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.
BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.
Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?
Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.
No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.
As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?
Nope. It was pretty easy. A CM deleted a post, and I disagreed with him, and at the end of the discussion, when I said I'd leave if not treated better, he indicated that wouldn't be a problem, and he did it with an alarming quickness. It's that last bit, where it was so fast, that made me realize how much value they place on their core users today. Ergo, I'm not a core user.
I still wear the shirts and polos. Those are some quality cotton threads and clothes can be expensive. Of course, if there were a trade-in program to get Manglolassi or other brands, and they had equal quality, I'd jump at that.
Wow, just Wow! After all you did for SW, that is how they treat you. I'm seeing an inflated head in Austin on this one. I sure miss Nic!
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@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.
BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.
Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?
Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.
No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.
As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?
Nope. It was pretty easy. A CM deleted a post, and I disagreed with him, and at the end of the discussion, when I said I'd leave if not treated better, he indicated that wouldn't be a problem, and he did it with an alarming quickness. It's that last bit, where it was so fast, that made me realize how much value they place on their core users today. Ergo, I'm not a core user.
I still wear the shirts and polos. Those are some quality cotton threads and clothes can be expensive. Of course, if there were a trade-in program to get Manglolassi or other brands, and they had equal quality, I'd jump at that.
Wow, just Wow! After all you did for SW, that is how they treat you. I'm seeing an inflated head in Austin on this one. I sure miss Nic!
Yeah, that Austin CM drives a Tesla and has his own smug cloud.
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@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
@RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.
BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.
Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?
Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.
No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.
As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?
Nope. It was pretty easy. A CM deleted a post, and I disagreed with him, and at the end of the discussion, when I said I'd leave if not treated better, he indicated that wouldn't be a problem, and he did it with an alarming quickness. It's that last bit, where it was so fast, that made me realize how much value they place on their core users today. Ergo, I'm not a core user.
I still wear the shirts and polos. Those are some quality cotton threads and clothes can be expensive. Of course, if there were a trade-in program to get Manglolassi or other brands, and they had equal quality, I'd jump at that.
Wow, just Wow! After all you did for SW, that is how they treat you. I'm seeing an inflated head in Austin on this one. I sure miss Nic!
Yeah, that Austin CM drives a Tesla and has his own smug cloud.
https://media2.giphy.com/media/ddzDInHtgXGLK/200_s.gifNot enough upvotes for this.... thaaaaaaanks!
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@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
And trying to cover up that they are insolvent and unable to pay their bills.
WTF? Insolvent?
Way to jump the shark. Not paying and not being able to pay are different things. There is nothing about not being able to pay even hinted at in any of this.Reality is a shit place to be, it is true, but try staying there a bit more.
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@JaredBusch said in MSP charged with extortion:
@scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:
And trying to cover up that they are insolvent and unable to pay their bills.
WTF? Insolvent?
Way to jump the shark. Not paying and not being able to pay are different things. There is nothing about not being able to pay even hinted at in any of this.Reality is a shit place to be, it is true, but try staying there a bit more.
If you are a business and don't pay your bills, it means that your customers have to wonder if you can pay your bills. That's not something you do trivially because whether it is reality or not, it means that your customers start to wonder. It's a sign that something is very, very wrong and the most common cause is that the business is on the brink. It's an SMB, the average SMB is on the brink of insolvency at nearly all times - most go out of business in the first few years. SMBs that can't pay their bills are, most often, unable to do so. This is reality. Does one mean the other, no, that's why I didn't say that. Is it a strong indicator that that is the case? Absolutely. In the SMB world, it's a very strong indicator.
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Wow, just read the article... This is unreal!
It's the exact method as any business uses in case of non payment.I can't even think of a precedent because it's kind of like a custom
You don't pay, you don't use. It's common sense just like @scottalanmiller said before.You can't take a ride on the ferris wheel if you don't buy yourself a ticket..
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Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd
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@Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:
Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd
Can someone add another tag or two? scam and donate
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@travisdh1 said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:
Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd
Can someone add another tag or two? scam and donate
Done.
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@Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:
@travisdh1 said in MSP charged with extortion:
@Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:
Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd
Can someone add another tag or two? scam and donate
Done.
Great, I'll be able to find it when I get home tonight
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I wanted to drop everyone a quick update. The case is still pending the initial hearing. We are really in a holding patter until then. We still need more funds for the legal battle. That is about all I can really say at the moment since everything is still pending.
I can't thank everyone enough for the support we are receiving from various communities and social feeds. Please continue to spread the word about the fund raising efforts on FundRazr.com.
https://fundrazr.com/MSPInjustice
Thanks,
Jim
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Thanks for the update. Got the site shared on Twitter, G+ and Facebook.
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While there is still no update, I wanted to share a new story on MSPMentor.net with commentary from the arresting detective.
http://mspmentor.net/managed-services/msp-denies-destroying-office-365-data-nonpayment-flap -
@jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:
While there is still no update, I wanted to share a new story on MSPMentor.net with commentary from the arresting detective.
http://mspmentor.net/managed-services/msp-denies-destroying-office-365-data-nonpayment-flap“So he can’t withhold their property,” Karic continued. “He can withhold the service of it.”
Um, of course, and the service included the storage of it. Sounds like the sheriff's office just stated why it was proper to dispose of the data.
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Sounds like, from the article, that Karic did nothing to validate the claims and arrested without even attempting to verify evidence? But from Karic's own statements, even if there was evidence, it would not matter as the storage was the service and they didn't pay so there was no need to continue the service.
We'd need Karic's own versions to know, but MSP Mentor paints a pretty solid picture of corruption and crime in Forsythe County's sheriff's office. I bet we would find someone in the sheriff's office related to someone making money at the Chamber of Commerce.
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Found a picture of the sheriff...
https://bookshelfbattle.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/tumblr_l9l2dvec6d1qate3qo1_400-2.jpg
