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    • jimkJ
      jimk @Minion Queen
      last edited by

      @Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:

      @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

      For those of you who have the ability to assist financially, here is a link to my fundraising page on FundRazr. We would have used the more popular GoFundMe, but it does not allow for raising of funds for legal fees.

      http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd

      Thanks for those that can, and I appreciate everything tht all are doing in support of us.

      Thanks,

      Jim

      Done and Shared on Facebook! Everyone share this on your facebook and twitter. Cause this is crazy that a ex-client can try to get away with it.

      Thank you Danielle!

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      • GreyG
        Grey @jimk
        last edited by

        @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

        @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

        @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

        @RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.

        BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.

        Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?

        Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.

        No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.

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        • jimkJ
          jimk @Grey
          last edited by

          @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

          @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

          @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

          @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

          @RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.

          BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.

          Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?

          Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.

          No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.

          As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @jimk
            last edited by

            @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

            @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

            @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

            @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

            @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

            @RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.

            BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.

            Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?

            Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.

            No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.

            As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?

            He's been gone for a while. But not as long as you πŸ™‚

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            • GreyG
              Grey @jimk
              last edited by Grey

              @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

              @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

              @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

              @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

              @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

              @RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.

              BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.

              Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?

              Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.

              No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.

              As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?

              Nope. It was pretty easy. A CM deleted a post, and I disagreed with him, and at the end of the discussion, when I said I'd leave if not treated better, he indicated that wouldn't be a problem, and he did it with an alarming quickness. It's that last bit, where it was so fast, that made me realize how much value they place on their core users today. Ergo, I'm not a core user.

              I still wear the shirts and polos. Those are some quality cotton threads and clothes can be expensive. Of course, if there were a trade-in program to get Manglolassi or other brands, and they had equal quality, I'd jump at that.

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              • RojoLocoR
                RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                @RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.

                BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.

                Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?

                Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.

                No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.

                As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?

                He's been gone for a while. But not as long as you πŸ™‚

                There are a few of us who don't SW anymore.... Because they decided to start treating certain people like garbage. So f@ck them in their marketing holes... but mostly that one mod.

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                • jimkJ
                  jimk @Grey
                  last edited by

                  @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.

                  BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.

                  Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?

                  Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.

                  No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.

                  As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?

                  Nope. It was pretty easy. A CM deleted a post, and I disagreed with him, and at the end of the discussion, when I said I'd leave if not treated better, he indicated that wouldn't be a problem, and he did it with an alarming quickness. It's that last bit, where it was so fast, that made me realize how much value they place on their core users today. Ergo, I'm not a core user.

                  I still wear the shirts and polos. Those are some quality cotton threads and clothes can be expensive. Of course, if there were a trade-in program to get Manglolassi or other brands, and they had equal quality, I'd jump at that.

                  Wow, just Wow! After all you did for SW, that is how they treat you. I'm seeing an inflated head in Austin on this one. I sure miss Nic!

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                  • GreyG
                    Grey @jimk
                    last edited by

                    @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                    @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                    @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                    @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                    @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                    @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                    @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                    @RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.

                    BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.

                    Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?

                    Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.

                    No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.

                    As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?

                    Nope. It was pretty easy. A CM deleted a post, and I disagreed with him, and at the end of the discussion, when I said I'd leave if not treated better, he indicated that wouldn't be a problem, and he did it with an alarming quickness. It's that last bit, where it was so fast, that made me realize how much value they place on their core users today. Ergo, I'm not a core user.

                    I still wear the shirts and polos. Those are some quality cotton threads and clothes can be expensive. Of course, if there were a trade-in program to get Manglolassi or other brands, and they had equal quality, I'd jump at that.

                    Wow, just Wow! After all you did for SW, that is how they treat you. I'm seeing an inflated head in Austin on this one. I sure miss Nic!

                    Yeah, that Austin CM drives a Tesla and has his own smug cloud.
                    https://media2.giphy.com/media/ddzDInHtgXGLK/200_s.gif

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                    • RojoLocoR
                      RojoLoco @Grey
                      last edited by

                      @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                      @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                      @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                      @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                      @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                      @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                      @Grey said in MSP charged with extortion:

                      @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                      @RojoLoco Never! I have several friends, including my BF that are of Indian decent ir directly from India and they run in to racism all the time. I fight the fight with them to educate on and eradicate the ignorance behind racism.

                      BF? Boyfriend?I did not know that about you, Jim.

                      Best Friend Grey! How have you been man! You still SpiceTraining?

                      Best friend, boyfriend, whatever. It's cool.

                      No, Spiceworks and I don't talk any more.

                      As in no Spiceworks at all? How did you manage to stop talking, surgery?

                      Nope. It was pretty easy. A CM deleted a post, and I disagreed with him, and at the end of the discussion, when I said I'd leave if not treated better, he indicated that wouldn't be a problem, and he did it with an alarming quickness. It's that last bit, where it was so fast, that made me realize how much value they place on their core users today. Ergo, I'm not a core user.

                      I still wear the shirts and polos. Those are some quality cotton threads and clothes can be expensive. Of course, if there were a trade-in program to get Manglolassi or other brands, and they had equal quality, I'd jump at that.

                      Wow, just Wow! After all you did for SW, that is how they treat you. I'm seeing an inflated head in Austin on this one. I sure miss Nic!

                      Yeah, that Austin CM drives a Tesla and has his own smug cloud.
                      https://media2.giphy.com/media/ddzDInHtgXGLK/200_s.gif

                      Not enough upvotes for this.... thaaaaaaanks!

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by JaredBusch

                        @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                        And trying to cover up that they are insolvent and unable to pay their bills.

                        WTF? Insolvent?
                        Way to jump the shark. Not paying and not being able to pay are different things. There is nothing about not being able to pay even hinted at in any of this.

                        Reality is a shit place to be, it is true, but try staying there a bit more.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in MSP charged with extortion:

                          @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                          And trying to cover up that they are insolvent and unable to pay their bills.

                          WTF? Insolvent?
                          Way to jump the shark. Not paying and not being able to pay are different things. There is nothing about not being able to pay even hinted at in any of this.

                          Reality is a shit place to be, it is true, but try staying there a bit more.

                          If you are a business and don't pay your bills, it means that your customers have to wonder if you can pay your bills. That's not something you do trivially because whether it is reality or not, it means that your customers start to wonder. It's a sign that something is very, very wrong and the most common cause is that the business is on the brink. It's an SMB, the average SMB is on the brink of insolvency at nearly all times - most go out of business in the first few years. SMBs that can't pay their bills are, most often, unable to do so. This is reality. Does one mean the other, no, that's why I didn't say that. Is it a strong indicator that that is the case? Absolutely. In the SMB world, it's a very strong indicator.

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                          • L
                            Lennertgenbr
                            last edited by

                            Wow, just read the article... This is unreal!
                            It's the exact method as any business uses in case of non payment.

                            I can't even think of a precedent because it's kind of like a custom πŸ˜› You don't pay, you don't use. It's common sense just like @scottalanmiller said before.

                            You can't take a ride on the ferris wheel if you don't buy yourself a ticket..

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                            • Minion QueenM
                              Minion Queen Banned
                              last edited by

                              Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @Minion Queen
                                last edited by

                                @Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd

                                Can someone add another tag or two? scam and donate

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                                • Minion QueenM
                                  Minion Queen Banned @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                  @Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                  Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd

                                  Can someone add another tag or two? scam and donate

                                  Done.

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @Minion Queen
                                    last edited by

                                    @Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                    @travisdh1 said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                    @Minion-Queen said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                    Don't forget if you can to help Jim out. I can't imagine his expenses to fight all of this right now. http://fnd.us/91CvBd?ref=sh_96SYSd

                                    Can someone add another tag or two? scam and donate

                                    Done.

                                    Great, I'll be able to find it when I get home tonight πŸ˜„

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                                    • jimkJ
                                      jimk
                                      last edited by

                                      I wanted to drop everyone a quick update. The case is still pending the initial hearing. We are really in a holding patter until then. We still need more funds for the legal battle. That is about all I can really say at the moment since everything is still pending.

                                      I can't thank everyone enough for the support we are receiving from various communities and social feeds. Please continue to spread the word about the fund raising efforts on FundRazr.com.

                                      https://fundrazr.com/MSPInjustice

                                      Thanks,

                                      Jim

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks for the update. Got the site shared on Twitter, G+ and Facebook.

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                                        • jimkJ
                                          jimk
                                          last edited by

                                          While there is still no update, I wanted to share a new story on MSPMentor.net with commentary from the arresting detective.
                                          http://mspmentor.net/managed-services/msp-denies-destroying-office-365-data-nonpayment-flap

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @jimk
                                            last edited by

                                            @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                            While there is still no update, I wanted to share a new story on MSPMentor.net with commentary from the arresting detective.
                                            http://mspmentor.net/managed-services/msp-denies-destroying-office-365-data-nonpayment-flap

                                            β€œSo he can’t withhold their property,” Karic continued. β€œHe can withhold the service of it.”

                                            Um, of course, and the service included the storage of it. Sounds like the sheriff's office just stated why it was proper to dispose of the data.

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