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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      Let's encrypt is great, and I use it too, but that is not a wildcard cert solution. There are many cases (mostly around time not cert cost) where it is more effective to buy a wildcard cert

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Alex Sage
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        @aaronstuder said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

        https://cheapsslsecurity.com/sslproducts/wildcardssl.html

        This is not helpful. While it may be a good choice, we can all Google and get a link. The point of this thread is for a recommendation.

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        • GreyG
          Grey @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

          We just use LetsEncrypt and no wild cards.

          Do you know if their certs will work for VMWare? The documentation I've read states that they don't have certs for anything except apache and IIS.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Grey
            last edited by

            @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

            We just use LetsEncrypt and no wild cards.

            Do you know if their certs will work for VMWare? The documentation I've read states that they don't have certs for anything except apache and IIS.

            Jared and I use them for other things like Nginx. A very is basically a very, they aren't application specific. They don't do wild cards, but I would expect them to work on any web server.

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            • GreyG
              Grey @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

              @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

              We just use LetsEncrypt and no wild cards.

              Do you know if their certs will work for VMWare? The documentation I've read states that they don't have certs for anything except apache and IIS.

              Jared and I use them for other things like Nginx. A very is basically a very, they aren't application specific. They don't do wild cards, but I would expect them to work on any web server.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Dammit

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @Grey
                  last edited by

                  @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                  We just use LetsEncrypt and no wild cards.

                  Do you know if their certs will work for VMWare? The documentation I've read states that they don't have certs for anything except apache and IIS.

                  Are you required to have it on the VMWare host? Can you point things to a proxy and let stuff talk through that?

                  I am sure you could get it on a VMWare host, but the way it works, you would need each host reachable from the public internet.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
                    last edited by JaredBusch

                    @Grey this is one of the places where a purchased SSL (wildcard or just a few SANS) still makes sense. Let's Encrypt is continually improving, but a place with many internal systems wanting to use a 3rd part CA cert is still a use case for a purchased wildcard cert.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill
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                      I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

                      Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

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                      • GreyG
                        Grey @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                        I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

                        Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

                        Thanks. Sent this up the chain! Let's see how things go. 🍿

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @Grey
                          last edited by

                          @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                          @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                          I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

                          Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

                          Thanks. Sent this up the chain! Let's see how things go. 🍿

                          I had absolutely no problems with them.

                          In fact, I was pissed at myself I had been paying so damn much!

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                          • GreyG
                            Grey @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                            @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                            @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                            I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

                            Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

                            Thanks. Sent this up the chain! Let's see how things go. 🍿

                            I had absolutely no problems with them.

                            In fact, I was pissed at myself I had been paying so damn much!

                            That's a good way to describe my boss' face. He kept asking why there was such a price difference between this and Symantec's certs since that's what the org has been using for many, many years. That led to discussions of root auth and key length, but in the end I kinda just shrugged and said that the certs were no different.
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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee
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                              StartSSL.com "was" great for stuff like this till they went & messed it all up!

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @FATeknollogee said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                StartSSL.com "was" great for stuff like this till they went & messed it all up!

                                And made it quite clear they didn't care that they messed it all up. That software developers will make mistakes is a given, that they quickly fix mistakes is what I want to see.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Grey
                                  last edited by

                                  @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                  @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                  @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                  @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                  I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

                                  Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

                                  Thanks. Sent this up the chain! Let's see how things go. 🍿

                                  I had absolutely no problems with them.

                                  In fact, I was pissed at myself I had been paying so damn much!

                                  That's a good way to describe my boss' face. He kept asking why there was such a price difference between this and Symantec's certs since that's what the org has been using for many, many years. That led to discussions of root auth and key length, but in the end I kinda just shrugged and said that the certs were no different.
                                  130px-Pointy-Haired_Boss.jpg

                                  Easy answer - all free and cheap products have an overpriced equivalent to take advantage of suckers. The very fact that people ask "well why does it cost so much" proves the value of simply overcharching to get their money.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Grey
                                    last edited by

                                    @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                    @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                    @Grey said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                    @BRRABill said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                    I used ssls.com to but a regular certificate and it was crazy cheap, $5.

                                    Their cheapest wildcard looks like it is $85.

                                    Thanks. Sent this up the chain! Let's see how things go. 🍿

                                    I had absolutely no problems with them.

                                    In fact, I was pissed at myself I had been paying so damn much!

                                    That's a good way to describe my boss' face. He kept asking why there was such a price difference between this and Symantec's certs since that's what the org has been using for many, many years. That led to discussions of root auth and key length, but in the end I kinda just shrugged and said that the certs were no different.
                                    130px-Pointy-Haired_Boss.jpg

                                    Easy answer - all free and cheap products have an overpriced equivalent to take advantage of suckers. The very fact that people ask "well why does it cost so much" proves the value of simply overcharching to get their money. If the answer isn't obvious - because people want to spend a lot - then it's obvious why such a trick works.

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                                    • black3dynamiteB
                                      black3dynamite
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                                      StartSSL
                                      StartSSL™ Identity Validation is the cheapest one that offers wildcards.

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @black3dynamite
                                        last edited by

                                        @black3dynamite said in Least expensive wildcard cert?:

                                        StartSSL
                                        StartSSL™ Identity Validation is the cheapest one that offers wildcards.

                                        They're a never use now tho, any new certificates they issue will not be accepted by any major web browser.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          StartCom is actually most likely still a decent service, but they were bought by WoSign who got in trouble for something or another. I do not recall the details of that.

                                          Because a CA has to be completely trustworthy, and the WoSign purchase was secret, boom no more StartCom certs.

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by FATeknollogee

                                            They got caught backdating certs & doing some other funky stuff.
                                            https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2016/10/24/distrusting-new-wosign-and-startcom-certificates/
                                            https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/10/heads_roll_as_qihoo_360_moves_to_end_wosign_startcom_certificate_row/

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