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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @dr.funkenstein
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      @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

      Now, does it make sense to further divy-up the HDD, for each VM, and the data ? Or should I just created another partition (D:), and allocate it the rest of the HDD space, then create all the VHDXs and VMs on this partition ?

      No, make the single largest partition you can. Put all VMs' in there.

      It's even debatable if you needed to create the 64 separate partition for the OS, but I see both sides, so you like, fine go with it.

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @dr.funkenstein
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        @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

        hello,

        I managed to convince the seniors and client, and they've agreed upon the following : -

        • list item To switch to RAID10, at the cost of the losing 1TB from the 2x3TB HDDs.since RAID10 always creates an array size, based on the smallest HDD(s)

        • Use Windows 2016, through-out - for the HostOS as well as the guest VMs

        However, they insisted that I start-off with the Desktop Experience(with just Hyper-V role enabled), setup everything, and then, once everything is working smoothly, down-grade to Server Core .... Their logic is that, it is better this way since I'm a newbie, and that Server Core is supported by MS, whereas Hyper-V server is not ..

        Anyway, I carved-out a 64GB (C:)partition from the 3.6TB of usable space, and installed the Host OS, and enabled the Hyper-V role.

        Uhm, installed the OS AND enabled Hyper-V role, or installed just Hyper-V roll during installation? Two very different things according to the licensing.

        Now, does it make sense to further divy-up the HDD, for each VM, and the data ? Or should I just created another partition (D:), and allocate it the rest of the HDD space, then create all the VHDXs and VMs on this partition ?

        I'd just use one partition to store all the VHDXs on.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @travisdh1
          last edited by JaredBusch

          @travisdh1 said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

          Uhm, installed the OS AND enabled Hyper-V role, or installed just Hyper-V roll during installation? Two very different things according to the licensing.

          No it is not. There is only one server OS. Server 2016. You add roles as needed.

          There is only the OS and roles on the OS. The only licensing issue here would be to ensure that there are no roles other than Hyper-V enabled.

          Enabling or disabling the GUI is not adding a role.

          You always only install the OS and enable the roles you want.

          This is how MS Server has worked forever.

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          • black3dynamiteB
            black3dynamite @dr.funkenstein
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            @dr.funkenstein

            In response to converting from Desktop Experience to Core. You will have to do a fresh install.

            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server-docs/get-started/getting-started-with-server-with-desktop-experience

            "Unlike some previous releases of Windows Server, you cannot convert between Server Core and Server with Desktop Experience after installation. If you install Server with Desktop Experience and later decide to use Server Core, you should do a fresh installation."

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

              @travisdh1 said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

              Uhm, installed the OS AND enabled Hyper-V role, or installed just Hyper-V roll during installation? Two very different things according to the licensing.

              No it is not. There is only one server OS. Server 2016. You add roles as needed.

              There is only the OS and roles on the OS. The only licensing issue here would be to ensure that there are no roles other than Hyper-V enabled.

              Enabling or disabling the GUI is not adding a role.

              You always only install the OS and enable the roles you want.

              This is how MS Server has worked forever.

              Yes, but installing any role other than Hyper-V is what causes the licensing issue. Sorry I wasn't clear enough.

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                dr.funkenstein @black3dynamite
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                @black3dynamite

                @black3dynamite said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                @dr.funkenstein

                In response to converting from Desktop Experience to Core. You will have to do a fresh install.

                https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server-docs/get-started/getting-started-with-server-with-desktop-experience

                "Unlike some previous releases of Windows Server, you cannot convert between Server Core and Server with Desktop Experience after installation. If you install Server with Desktop Experience and later decide to use Server Core, you should do a fresh installation."

                Major... major bummer !!

                Plus, I hate the Windows 2016 desktop experience. Why couldn't they just let it be the same as 2012 R2

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @dr.funkenstein
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                  @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                  Plus, I hate the Windows 2016 desktop experience. Why couldn't they just let it be the same as 2012 R2

                  What's different about it from Win 10?

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                    dr.funkenstein @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                    @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                    Plus, I hate the Windows 2016 desktop experience. Why couldn't they just let it be the same as 2012 R2

                    What's different about it from Win 10?

                    The fact that it's not Windows 10 ... It is Windows SERVER 2016

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @dr.funkenstein
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                      @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                      @Dashrender said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                      @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                      Plus, I hate the Windows 2016 desktop experience. Why couldn't they just let it be the same as 2012 R2

                      What's different about it from Win 10?

                      The fact that is not Windows 10 ... It is Windows SERVER 2016

                      Win 2012 R2 is like Win 8.1, so what makes this so much worse? I guess I have to see how the tools are laid out. Though one thing all us Windows admins have to get used to is MS is moving more and more directly to the CLI instead of the GUI.

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                        dr.funkenstein @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender

                        Yes, 2012 looks like 8.1, but it still did not provide a full-fledged desktop experience (Themes n all), out of the box... 2016 does that, on the other hand ... Why not have a minimal GUI just for servers, without the bells and whistles ..

                        I installed Hyper-V Core, and I'm facing a though time configuring... The server is at a remote location, and connect to the remote network via VPN, and am trying to use tools like Server Manager, Hyper-V manager, and even 5nine.. Server Manager itself works fine, but when I launch tools (such a Computer Management) from within Server Manager, I get random access denied messages .. Even after adding it as a Trusted host

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @dr.funkenstein
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                          @dr.funkenstein You were told to use a device on site. Most likely you are running into simple time out issues over the VPN link. I use various MMC tools (mostly Hyper-V manager) across a VPN all the time and have no issues.

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                            JaredBusch @dr.funkenstein
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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @dr.funkenstein
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                              @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                              @black3dynamite

                              @black3dynamite said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                              @dr.funkenstein

                              In response to converting from Desktop Experience to Core. You will have to do a fresh install.

                              https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server-docs/get-started/getting-started-with-server-with-desktop-experience

                              "Unlike some previous releases of Windows Server, you cannot convert between Server Core and Server with Desktop Experience after installation. If you install Server with Desktop Experience and later decide to use Server Core, you should do a fresh installation."

                              Major... major bummer !!

                              So install Server Core only and then add the feature afterwards. Any feature added afterwards is supposed to be removable.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @dr.funkenstein
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                                @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                                @Dashrender

                                Yes, 2012 looks like 8.1, but it still did not provide a full-fledged desktop experience (Themes n all), out of the box... 2016 does that, on the other hand ... Why not have a minimal GUI just for servers, without the bells and whistles ..

                                Because you should not be running a GUI at all. Spending time and money to support people using the product in that way is not in MIcrosoft's interest and not really in yours, either.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dr.funkenstein
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                                  @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                                  I installed Hyper-V Core, and I'm facing a though time configuring... The server is at a remote location, and connect to the remote network via VPN, and am trying to use tools like Server Manager, Hyper-V manager, and even 5nine.. Server Manager itself works fine, but when I launch tools (such a Computer Management) from within Server Manager, I get random access denied messages .. Even after adding it as a Trusted host

                                  Why are you doing things over a VPN? Stop doing that, that's likely your problem.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                                    @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                                    I installed Hyper-V Core, and I'm facing a though time configuring... The server is at a remote location, and connect to the remote network via VPN, and am trying to use tools like Server Manager, Hyper-V manager, and even 5nine.. Server Manager itself works fine, but when I launch tools (such a Computer Management) from within Server Manager, I get random access denied messages .. Even after adding it as a Trusted host

                                    Why are you doing things over a VPN? Stop doing that, that's likely your problem.

                                    Even better, this sounds like a MSP office he is working from, so they probably have all these VPN connections to various clients open.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                                      @dr.funkenstein said in Storage Provisioning For a Single Hyper-V Server Setup:

                                      I installed Hyper-V Core, and I'm facing a though time configuring... The server is at a remote location, and connect to the remote network via VPN, and am trying to use tools like Server Manager, Hyper-V manager, and even 5nine.. Server Manager itself works fine, but when I launch tools (such a Computer Management) from within Server Manager, I get random access denied messages .. Even after adding it as a Trusted host

                                      Why are you doing things over a VPN? Stop doing that, that's likely your problem.

                                      Even better, this sounds like a MSP office he is working from, so they probably have all these VPN connections to various clients open.

                                      That's super scary, MSPs using VPNs is how malware is going to suddenly take over the world. Cross contamination all over the place.

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