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    • Mike DavisM
      Mike Davis
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      Insult to injury, the client called GoDaddy, and this was their response:

      Godaddy says they have no way to whitelist or unblock IP addresses and that we must have some encryption attached to our outgoing mail that no one else has that their server wont allow.

      My client asked to talk to the level 2 guy and the level 1 guy on the phone said he couldn't because it was all done by chat. So he asked him to paste that error message to him and explain it. His response? "You should use webmail - it works every time."

      I feel like that should be cross posted to the "I can't even" thread.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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        @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

        I think I finally got to the bottom of this. Telnet to smtpout.secureserver.net on port 80 and I get:

        554 p3plsmtpa12-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net :SMTPAUTH: ESMTP No Relay Access Allowed From <the static IP of the Verizon connection here>
        

        So there we have it, it connects to godaddy and godaddy tells it that they have blacklisted the IP and closes the connection. If you do that same test from a different IP it allows you to type commands.

        I'm surprised that this was not in the MTA logs.

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        • Mike DavisM
          Mike Davis @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

          I'm surprised that this was not in the MTA logs.

          I'm sure it's in their logs. The logs that no level 1 or level 2 is ever going to see.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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            @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

            Insult to injury, the client called GoDaddy, and this was their response:

            Godaddy says they have no way to whitelist or unblock IP addresses and that we must have some encryption attached to our outgoing mail that no one else has that their server wont allow.

            My client asked to talk to the level 2 guy and the level 1 guy on the phone said he couldn't because it was all done by chat. So he asked him to paste that error message to him and explain it. His response? "You should use webmail - it works every time."

            I feel like that should be cross posted to the "I can't even" thread.

            Yes but the "I can't even" bit is the "client used GoDaddy." That's not a business service. That's the core problem. That a consumer joke of a service doesn't have good customer service is... exactly as expected.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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              @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

              I'm surprised that this was not in the MTA logs.

              I'm sure it's in their logs. The logs that no level 1 or level 2 is ever going to see.

              The sending MTA. The one getting the error.

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              • Mike DavisM
                Mike Davis
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                I got that from a straight up telnet session, not an email client.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
                  last edited by

                  @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                  I got that from a straight up telnet session, not an email client.

                  I know, but the MTA should have recorded it in the logs when it was trying to send. Maybe they are using some ridiculous MTA that has no logging?

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                    @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                    I got that from a straight up telnet session, not an email client.

                    I know, but the MTA should have recorded it in the logs when it was trying to send. Maybe they are using some ridiculous MTA that has no logging?

                    Who are you talking about Scott?
                    GoDaddy is not checking their logs and like is using outlook to connect to GoDaddy server.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                      @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                      I got that from a straight up telnet session, not an email client.

                      I know, but the MTA should have recorded it in the logs when it was trying to send. Maybe they are using some ridiculous MTA that has no logging?

                      Who are you talking about Scott?
                      GoDaddy is not checking their logs and like is using outlook to connect to GoDaddy server.

                      I've been clear that I'm not taking about Godaddy. Are you saying Outlook doesn't log and just ignores the errors?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Where do you find your Outlook MTA SMTP logs?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          Interesting, had no idea.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                            Interesting, had no idea.

                            It's an MTA like any other, treat it like normal and don't think of it as a special case and it makes it easier.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill
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                              @scottalanmiller

                              Will be interesting to see the logs. I have found Outlook isn't real good about verbose logging of that stuff like you would see in a mail server log.

                              Hopefully @Mike-Davis will post so we can see.

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @BRRABill
                                last edited by

                                @BRRABill said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                Outlook isn't real good

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                                • Mike DavisM
                                  Mike Davis
                                  last edited by

                                  I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Mike Davis
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                                    @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                    I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

                                    LOL they should be dropping GoDaddy as their email provider - Rackspace is super cheap at $2/user a month, unless they can get the SW pricing. O365 email only is $4/user/month and includes ActiveSync/Exchange.

                                    I'm guessing GoDaddy is some super cheap, even cheaper than RS, but who knows maybe not.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                      @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                      I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

                                      LOL they should be dropping GoDaddy as their email provider - Rackspace is super cheap at $2/user a month, unless they can get the SW pricing. O365 email only is $4/user/month and includes ActiveSync/Exchange.

                                      I'm guessing GoDaddy is some super cheap, even cheaper than RS, but who knows maybe not.

                                      Do not recall legacy GoDaddy pricing. now, GoDaddy is O365.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                        @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                        I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

                                        LOL they should be dropping GoDaddy as their email provider - Rackspace is super cheap at $2/user a month, unless they can get the SW pricing. O365 email only is $4/user/month and includes ActiveSync/Exchange.

                                        I'm guessing GoDaddy is some super cheap, even cheaper than RS, but who knows maybe not.

                                        Everyone can get the SW pricing. GoDaddy is basically free, and it's certainly not worth it.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                          @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                          @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                          I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

                                          LOL they should be dropping GoDaddy as their email provider - Rackspace is super cheap at $2/user a month, unless they can get the SW pricing. O365 email only is $4/user/month and includes ActiveSync/Exchange.

                                          I'm guessing GoDaddy is some super cheap, even cheaper than RS, but who knows maybe not.

                                          Do not recall legacy GoDaddy pricing. now, GoDaddy is O365.

                                          They still have both, I thought.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                            @Dashrender said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                            @Mike-Davis said in Verizon blocking port 465 to godaddy?:

                                            I'm curious too, but I don't have access to the client machines without bugging them and I already sunk a bunch of unpaid time in to this, so unless I have to get on one of their clients I'm not going to bother them to satisfy my curiosity. It looks like they are going to drop their static IP from Verizon so I might be back on site to reconfigure their router.

                                            LOL they should be dropping GoDaddy as their email provider - Rackspace is super cheap at $2/user a month, unless they can get the SW pricing. O365 email only is $4/user/month and includes ActiveSync/Exchange.

                                            I'm guessing GoDaddy is some super cheap, even cheaper than RS, but who knows maybe not.

                                            Do not recall legacy GoDaddy pricing. now, GoDaddy is O365.

                                            They still have both, I thought.

                                            Ah, never looked that close.

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