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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
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      @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

      @scottalanmiller Lubuntu or Redhat or Centos or Budgie ????

      Well obvious none of those. You've picked only two different things.... RHEL and ubuntu. RHEL is a server distro and not applicable here. Ubuntu you've already tested and it doesn't work. How are you choosing these?

      Try Mint, Fedora 25, OpenSuse Tumbleweed for example.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        You need to try new things rather than copy after copy of the same thing.

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        • LakshmanaL
          Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller I will try Mint as per the suggestion.I will download try tonight to check whether any issue fixes in it 😞

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          • LakshmanaL
            Lakshmana @Lakshmana
            last edited by Lakshmana

            @Lakshmana Which desktop environment in Linux mint will not hang will using the machine ???

            Xfce ,KDE.Cinnamon or Mate

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
              last edited by

              @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

              @Lakshmana Which desktop environment in Linux mint will not hang will using the machine ???

              Xfce ,KDE.Cinnamon or Mate

              You already determined that you want to use XFCE, I thought. So go ahead and use that. I don't know what is causing your hangs, so I'm stuck guessing. But XFCE is the lightest and Cinnamon requires a GPU.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                last edited by

                @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                @scottalanmiller I will try Mint as per the suggestion.I will download try tonight to check whether any issue fixes in it 😞

                Yes, that's a good place to start. The latest Mint with XFCE or Mate is your best bet. After that Fedora 25 is the next one to try.

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                • LakshmanaL
                  Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller Oh !!! I have downloaded the XFCE Linux Mint now

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    If those don't work, try TrueOS. It's not Linux but should meet your needs.

                    https://www.trueos.org/

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                    • LakshmanaL
                      Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                        last edited by

                        @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                        @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                        Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                        Things you need to understand at this point:

                        • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                        • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                        • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                        • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.
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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                          @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                          @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                          Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                          Things you need to understand at this point:

                          • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                          • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                          • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                          • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.

                          If he needs Chrome he's going to have to do it that way. He needs to know whether he can install a .deb or .rpm. Those are the only options (other than Mac or Windows).

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                            @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                            @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                            Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                            Things you need to understand at this point:

                            • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                            • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                            • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                            • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.

                            If he needs Chrome he's going to have to do it that way. He needs to know whether he can install a .deb or .rpm. Those are the only options (other than Mac or Windows).

                            Somewhat, but they do add a proper software repository when installing the package.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @travisdh1
                              last edited by stacksofplates

                              @travisdh1 said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                              @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                              @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                              @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                              Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                              Things you need to understand at this point:

                              • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                              • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                              • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                              • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.

                              If he needs Chrome he's going to have to do it that way. He needs to know whether he can install a .deb or .rpm. Those are the only options (other than Mac or Windows).

                              Somewhat, but they do add a proper software repository when installing the package.

                              Right. So there isn't an issue when downloading the file. It adds everything for you.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                                Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                                Things you need to understand at this point:

                                • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                                • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                                • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                                • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.

                                If he needs Chrome he's going to have to do it that way. He needs to know whether he can install a .deb or .rpm. Those are the only options (other than Mac or Windows).

                                Yeah, but every enterprise Linux does one or the other. He's not asking the right thing if what he wants is that capability.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by stacksofplates

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                  @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                  @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                  @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                                  Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                                  Things you need to understand at this point:

                                  • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                                  • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                                  • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                                  • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.

                                  If he needs Chrome he's going to have to do it that way. He needs to know whether he can install a .deb or .rpm. Those are the only options (other than Mac or Windows).

                                  Yeah, but every enterprise Linux does one or the other. He's not asking the right thing if what he wants is that capability.

                                  Right, so he won't be able to install .deb or .rpm files. So he won't be able to use Chrome. I think that's what he was trying to figure out.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                    @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                    @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                    @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                    @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                                    Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                                    Things you need to understand at this point:

                                    • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                                    • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                                    • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                                    • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.

                                    If he needs Chrome he's going to have to do it that way. He needs to know whether he can install a .deb or .rpm. Those are the only options (other than Mac or Windows).

                                    Yeah, but every enterprise Linux does one or the other. He's not asking the right thing if what he wants is that capability.

                                    Right, so he won't be able to install .deb or .rpm files. So he won't be able to use Chrome. I think that's what he was trying to figure out.

                                    But that's not something that needs to be known as any viable option WILL allow Chrome. But he question would cause him to rule out Suse, Fedora, Korora and tons of others because they don't use deb files. And what we saw from his other threads is that Chrome is not what he is trying to get, he's trying to bypass the repos and just install things willy nilly that he finds online because he is thinking that he is on Windows.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                      But that's not something that needs to be known as any viable option WILL allow Chrome. But he question would cause him to rule out Suse, Fedora, Korora and tons of others because they don't use deb files.

                                      You told him to try TrueOS. So he asked you if it would accept .deb packages. How did you get the idea that he is ruling them out? You told him about it.

                                      And what we saw from his other threads is that Chrome is not what he is trying to get, he's trying to bypass the repos and just install things willy nilly that he finds online because he is thinking that he is on Windows.

                                      He specifically stated he was installing Chrome. The thread was even titled "Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04"

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                        last edited by

                                        @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                        He specifically stated he was installing Chrome. The thread was even titled "Chrome Browser in Ubuntu 17.04"

                                        I missed that there was a thread for that. Did we determine that he needed Chrome or any Chromium browser, though?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                          @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                          You told him to try TrueOS. So he asked you if it would accept .deb packages. How did you get the idea that he is ruling them out? You told him about it.

                                          Never got a response, that I noticed, that that was what he was asking about. TrueOS has its own enterprise package format system. Just like RPM and DEB. Chromium is included in the base repos.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by stacksofplates

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                            You told him to try TrueOS. So he asked you if it would accept .deb packages. How did you get the idea that he is ruling them out? You told him about it.

                                            Never got a response, that I noticed, that that was what he was asking about. TrueOS has its own enterprise package format system. Just like RPM and DEB. Chromium is included in the base repos.

                                            Right, and Chromium is in the repos for everything on the Linux side. But if you want H.264 streaming, AAC streaming, MP3 streaming (since the patent expired this year I would bet this changes), Flash, Silverlight (Netflix), etc you need regular Chrome.

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