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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

      @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

      So after a few more hours working with OBS, I discovered that you can output to a second screen. You have to right click on the source window, and choose "Full Screen Projector Preview" and then select the right output depending on your system such as "Display 1"

      So is that the direction that you are going now? How is it working? Are you doing long run HDMI for this?

      I hope it is not. The time wasted doing all of this testing with old gear is crazy.

      I mean, OBS sounds like good technology, but who is paying him to do all this work?

      The simple solution is a camera (used or new GoPro) and direct HDMI with a splitter. HDMI extender if needed.

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      • Mike DavisM
        Mike Davis @JaredBusch
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        When I laid out the options, they started to have second thoughts about being able to record, create streams, etc. Basically I told them that if they weren't sure which way they were going to go to run all the cables back to the sound booth so that for today we could put in a simple HDMI splitter , but tomorrow we could feed the camera(s) in to a capture card on the computer along with an output from the sound board and take it from there. I tested OBS and I was able to use a feed from a webcam, a feed from a firewire (IEEE 1394) camera, an IP camera feed, and display the desktop. If they get a HDMI camera today and then upgrade to IP cameras tomorrow, they HDMI camera can be used to get another angle.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @Mike Davis
          last edited by DustinB3403

          @Mike-Davis so the current plan is to use OBS and any number of cameras to create a stream, and watch that stream in preview mode on the TVs?

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          • Mike DavisM
            Mike Davis @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 They are weighing out the options. I suspect they will go with a single HDMI camera and splitter for today, but I don't know. If they go the computer route, they will still need the splitter to send the signal to the TVs, so nothing is wasted.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
              last edited by

              @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

              When I laid out the options, they started to have second thoughts about being able to record, create streams, etc.

              I called it. That's why you generally avoid legacy deployments in any arena. Customers always commit verbally to hard limits that they will "never need to exceed" that makes the project seem easy. And the moment that it's too late, they want those features. In this day and age, it's so obvious that being able to record, stream online or whatever should "just be available" that often people will commit to not being able to do things assuming that they really are not committing to those things or that they are trivial to add, no matter what you tell them.

              Same thing with VoIP. People commit to the limits of legacy phones all the time and are shocked when all modern features are unavailable to them because they just assumed, as VoIP is everywhere, that they would magically get that stuff too.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                Any update to this topic?

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said in analog video stream:

                  Any update to this topic?

                  This is for a church, they are likely discussing today before/after services.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    Okay it's Tuesday, any updates?

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 I'd be surprised if they escape the 'weighing options' loop. Few do.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                        @wirestyle22 said in analog video stream:

                        @DustinB3403 I'd be surprised if they escape the 'weighing options' loop. Few do.

                        So the response to the inquiry should've immediately been; "You have to stream it, using CCTV is not an option".

                        Is that what I'm getting from you @wirestyle22 ?

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
                          last edited by wirestyle22

                          @DustinB3403 Nah. I just mean every time I hear 'we are weighing our options' I never hear back.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @wirestyle22
                            last edited by

                            @wirestyle22 said in analog video stream:

                            @DustinB3403 Nah. I just mean every time I hear 'we are weighing our options' I never hear back.

                            That or they come back three months later and go "Here's the stuff, make it work" -- and nothing you asked for is on the list.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @dafyre
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                              @dafyre said in analog video stream:

                              @wirestyle22 said in analog video stream:

                              @DustinB3403 Nah. I just mean every time I hear 'we are weighing our options' I never hear back.

                              That or they come back three months later and go "Here's the stuff, make it work" -- and nothing you asked for is on the list.

                              That too

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                              • Mike DavisM
                                Mike Davis
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                                I'm not worried about it. It's probably going to cost them much more than they originally thought, and no matter who the client is, that usually means it's going to take more time.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  What's the latest?

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in analog video stream:

                                    What's the latest?

                                    I figured this project was dead in the water from the last update. . .

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                                    • Mike DavisM
                                      Mike Davis @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by Mike Davis

                                      They just told me that they don't want to stream online, but they are willing to spend what they need to for a PTZ camera that they can mount in the back of the room and then zoom in and move around and capture the front of the room.

                                      Since it will need to be controlled by a computer for the PTZ, an IP camera makes sense. It's about 70' from the back of the room to the front, so the zoom is more important than the wide angle lens most conferencing cameras have. Any recommendations?

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                                      • Mike DavisM
                                        Mike Davis
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                                        Is this what I should be looking at:
                                        PTZOptics 12X-SDI GEN-2 PTZ IP Streaming Camera with Simultaneous HDMI and 3G-SDI Outputs - White $1,599.00
                                        https://www.amazon.com/PTZOptics-12X-SDI-Streaming-Simultaneous-Outputs/dp/B01BI71RTG/r

                                        • 12X Optical Zoom for properly targeting your subject
                                        • IP Streaming with RJ45 input - Dual Streaming with H.264, H.265 & MJPEG (simultaneous high and low bit rate streams)
                                        • Simultaneous 3G-SDI, IP and HDMI Video Outputs for connection flexibility and std VISCA RS232 control
                                        • Full 1920x1080 Video Resolution and 10 IR / 255 RS232 PTZ presets
                                        • Low Light: 0.5 Lux with Noise Cancellation via the latest 2D and 3D noise reduction
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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Mike Davis
                                          last edited by

                                          @Mike-Davis said in analog video stream:

                                          They just told me that they don't want to stream online, but they are willing to spend what they need to for a PTZ camera that they can mount in the back of the room and then zoom in and move around and capture the front of the room.

                                          Since it will need to be controlled by a computer for the PTZ, an IP camera makes sense. It's about 70' from the back of the room to the front, so the zoom is more important than the wide angle lens most conferencing cameras have. Any recommendations?

                                          Wow, that is a change of requirements for sure. But at least now you have something to work with.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                                            @Mike-Davis good thing they didn't go with anything before!

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