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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller
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      Canon used to make some with simple clear plastic ink tanks which you could refill easily and for pennies. I own one but have not used it in ages.

      I only ever use a laser printer, and that's for toner transfer - probably 10 pages a year on average.

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      • JaredBuschJ
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        EFF has a petition

        https://act.eff.org/action/tell-hp-say-no-to-drm

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

          EFF has a petition

          https://act.eff.org/action/tell-hp-say-no-to-drm

          Signed and shared.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch
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            They are backtracking

            https://news.google.com/news/ampviewer?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theverge.com%2Fplatform%2Famp%2Fcircuitbreaker%2F2016%2F9%2F29%2F13111324%2Fhp-piracy-drm-firmware-update#pt0-553639

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              THe quote is: "HP is backtracking on a firmware update that recently blocked some printers from using third-party ink cartridges. Some users reported that the update sometimes mistakenly marked legitimate ink as fake, so HP’s CEO Jon Flaxman wrote today that the company will issue a new update to turn off the DRM.

              HP also clarified that third-party cartridges still work with the original update, so long as they’re built with HP security chips — aka HP is getting a cut of their business. The first mandatory update took effect on September 13th and forced printers to display "damaged cartridge" whenever a bad third-party cartridge was loaded. Following its activation, at least one company vowed to create new chips that could subvert the security check. It looks like that won’t be needed for now."

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre
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                Still a no-buy in my book now. I'll probably stop recommending all HP products, as well... just in case they start trying to mark 3rd party hard drives as bad in controller / firmware updates. At least those are less likely to happen automagically.

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                • Minion QueenM
                  Minion Queen
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                  Yeah it is enough reason for me to not buy anything as well. However we went to Brother for printer a few years ago.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @dafyre
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                    @dafyre said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                    Still a no-buy in my book now. I'll probably stop recommending all HP products, as well... just in case they start trying to mark 3rd party hard drives as bad in controller / firmware updates. At least those are less likely to happen automagically.

                    They already do this. As does Dell.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                      @dafyre said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                      Still a no-buy in my book now. I'll probably stop recommending all HP products, as well... just in case they start trying to mark 3rd party hard drives as bad in controller / firmware updates. At least those are less likely to happen automagically.

                      THat's what I was wondering would happen. HP did something bad, and now people are already blaming HPE - a different company.

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                      • Minion QueenM
                        Minion Queen @Minion Queen
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                        @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                        Yeah it is enough reason for me to not buy anything as well. However we went to Brother for printer a few years ago.

                        Remember there is a difference between HP and HPE though as @scottalanmiller has reminded us.

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                        • zuphzuphZ
                          zuphzuph Banned
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                          Meh, not worried about it I always buy genuine. I've tried 3rd party in the past and they tend to give nothing but issues... Seems they have a much shorter lifespan as well.

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                            • BrainsB
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                              BTW it looks like they partially reversed their decision

                              http://www.pcworld.com/article/3125645/printers/hp-rethinks-its-ink-policy-allowing-third-party-ink-again.html

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                /me blinks and scrolls up to 16 hours ago.

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                                  Jason Banned @Minion Queen
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                                  @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                  @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                  Yeah it is enough reason for me to not buy anything as well. However we went to Brother for printer a few years ago.

                                  Remember there is a difference between HP and HPE though as @scottalanmiller has reminded us.

                                  All Printers even LaserJet Pro is considered HP, not HPE though.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Jason
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                                    @Jason said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                    @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                    @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                    Yeah it is enough reason for me to not buy anything as well. However we went to Brother for printer a few years ago.

                                    Remember there is a difference between HP and HPE though as @scottalanmiller has reminded us.

                                    All Printers even LaserJet Pro is considered HP, not HPE though.

                                    Yes, all of the issues are with HP. But He had been saying that he was going to question using HPE because of something that HP did.

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                      @Jason said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                      @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                      @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                      Yeah it is enough reason for me to not buy anything as well. However we went to Brother for printer a few years ago.

                                      Remember there is a difference between HP and HPE though as @scottalanmiller has reminded us.

                                      All Printers even LaserJet Pro is considered HP, not HPE though.

                                      Yes, all of the issues are with HP. But He had been saying that he was going to question using HPE because of something that HP did.

                                      @scottalanmiller : Do both companies have many of the same people on the board of directors?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                        @dafyre said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                        @Jason said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                        @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                        @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                        Yeah it is enough reason for me to not buy anything as well. However we went to Brother for printer a few years ago.

                                        Remember there is a difference between HP and HPE though as @scottalanmiller has reminded us.

                                        All Printers even LaserJet Pro is considered HP, not HPE though.

                                        Yes, all of the issues are with HP. But He had been saying that he was going to question using HPE because of something that HP did.

                                        @scottalanmiller : Do both companies have many of the same people on the board of directors?

                                        Is that significant? Lots of companies share boards.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
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                                          The two have been making divergent board decisions since the split. Here is the board split info: http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/12/hp-announces-post-split-board-members-for-hewlett-packard-enterprise-and-hp-inc.html

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                            @dafyre said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                            @Jason said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                            @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                            @Minion-Queen said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:

                                            Yeah it is enough reason for me to not buy anything as well. However we went to Brother for printer a few years ago.

                                            Remember there is a difference between HP and HPE though as @scottalanmiller has reminded us.

                                            All Printers even LaserJet Pro is considered HP, not HPE though.

                                            Yes, all of the issues are with HP. But He had been saying that he was going to question using HPE because of something that HP did.

                                            @scottalanmiller : Do both companies have many of the same people on the board of directors?

                                            Is that significant? Lots of companies share boards.

                                            When HPE, which happens to have a large portion of its board also on HP's board, yes, I'd suggest that is significant, especially in light of the stunts being pulled by HP.

                                            That their boards are diverging to me is a good sign.

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