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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller @Dashrender
      last edited by MattSpeller

      @Dashrender no clue but he did link an ebay post below

      http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R720-SFF-16-Bay-Dual-E5-2670-192GB-RAM-2-4TB-H710-2x-PWS-Rail-Kit-/152215083076?hash=item2370b9d844:g:dPcAAOSwMtxXuz~z

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      • NashBrydgesN
        NashBrydges @MattSpeller
        last edited by

        @MattSpeller I got a similar quote for same config minus the SSDs and only half the RAM at $2,500 CDN 😞

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        • DanpD
          Danp @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender Several examples from ebay:

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/162152649359?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/162022356138?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

          http://www.ebay.com/itm/152233743184?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

          The first two are listed as new w/ warranty. The last is listed as used, but with minimal usage and warranty until 2020.

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            Jason Banned @MattSpeller
            last edited by gjacobse

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

            I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

            Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

            border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

            Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

            "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

            Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

            https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

            Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @Jason
              last edited by gjacobse

              @Jason said in Virtualization build:

              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

              @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

              @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

              @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

              I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

              Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

              border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

              Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

              "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

              Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

              https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

              Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.

              Really? I thought the gift tax didn't kick in until something like the $12,000 mark, then it's 50%, I was unaware that the high starting number only applied to family?

              It's sad, you gift a family member $15K, and they get way less than the $12K damn guberment 😞

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Danp
                last edited by

                @Danp said in Virtualization build:

                @Dashrender Several examples from ebay:

                http://www.ebay.com/itm/162152649359?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                http://www.ebay.com/itm/162022356138?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                http://www.ebay.com/itm/152233743184?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

                The first two are listed as new w/ warranty. The last is listed as used, but with minimal usage and warranty until 2020.

                Huh - I wonder if these fell off the back of a truck? If it's true and Samsung says the warrant is valid that's an awesome price, assuming that work in your new Dell.

                I know @BRRABill had an issue with non Dell SSDs - I think it was dropping the drives or at least the partitions, in either case, the data was gone.

                Please keep us informed!

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @Jason
                  last edited by gjacobse

                  @Jason said in Virtualization build:

                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                  I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                  Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                  border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                  Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                  "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                  Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                  https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                  Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.

                  Yeah the gift tax doesn't start until a value close to 6 Million US. as of 2015.

                  So you'd be more than in the clear.

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                    Jason Banned @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                    @Jason said in Virtualization build:

                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                    @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                    I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                    Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                    border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                    Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                    "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                    Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                    https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                    Even in the US you pay gift taxes, they are actually higher near 50% tax rate, unless it is a gift to a spouse or political party.

                    Yeah the gift tax doesn't start until a value close to 6 Million US. as of 2015.

                    So you'd be more than in the clear.

                    That's Federal.. Almost every state has gift tax as well. Also that is the lifetime limit meaning that if you give over 5million you always are taxed, you are still taxed federallly under 5 million if you go over the annual limit which is much much lower.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @Jason
                      last edited by

                      @Jason This would be at the federal level as two people from different nations are involved.

                      The state can pound sand.

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                        Jason Banned @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                        @Jason This would be at the federal level as two people from different nations are involved.

                        Not sure where you get that. You live in the state laws still apply. Just like when you buy stuff online you have to pay the taxes not collected by the merchant to your state at the end of the year.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @Jason
                          last edited by

                          @Jason hahaha..

                          ok sure... 😉

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                            I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                            Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                            But @Danp I thought the dell systems had a hard time with the Samsung ssds..

                            Taxes are insane doing that. Easily 100% of the cost of the server. Plus the shipping isn't cheap, either. And you have to pay a customs proxy agent to do the work for you.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @NashBrydges
                              last edited by

                              @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

                              @MattSpeller I got a similar quote for same config minus the SSDs and only half the RAM at $2,500 CDN 😞

                              But $2,500 CDN is like Monopoly money, so that's a good deal, right?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in Virtualization build:

                                @NashBrydges said in Virtualization build:

                                @MattSpeller I got a similar quote for same config minus the SSDs and only half the RAM at $2,500 CDN 😞

                                But $2,500 CDN is like Monopoly money, so that's a good deal, right?

                                It would be $1897.46 US.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                  @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                  I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                  Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                                  border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                                  Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                                  Doesn't work that way. Taxes are on the VALUE of the gear in CANADA. Has zero to do with the usage, price, intent, etc. You are not talking about a state tax agent here, you are talking about customs.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Danp
                                    last edited by

                                    @Danp said in Virtualization build:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                    But @Danp I thought the dell systems had a hard time with the Samsung ssds..

                                    Not sure. Was told that they would work fine, but would exhibit the known issue in OMSA.

                                    Who told you? Was it someone that is going to warranty them in that scenario?

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by gjacobse

                                      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                      @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                      I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                      Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                                      border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                                      Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                                      "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                                      Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                                      https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                                      We have to pay taxes on servers that are just resting in Canada. Even if they are US origin and return to the US, you have to pay taxes to go into Canada. No exceptions.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by gjacobse

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                        @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                        @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                        @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                        I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                        Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                                        border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                                        Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                                        "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                                        Canada customs gives no f(***)s about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                                        https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                                        And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                                        What's the tax on that?

                                        Price isn't a factor.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                                          last edited by

                                          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Virtualization build:

                                          @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                          I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                          Have a buddy buy it for you and hand ship it up.

                                          border agent: That's a nice server you got there.... be a shame if you had to... pay taxes on it! muahahahaha

                                          Nothing to claim, a buddy gave me this equipment from his personal lab.

                                          "In general, the goods you include in your personal exemption must be for your personal or household use. These goods include souvenirs, gifts that you received from friends or relatives living outside Canada or prizes that you won."

                                          Canada customs gives no fucks about gifts, only charging taxes on everything

                                          https://travel.gc.ca/returning/customs/what-you-can-bring-home-to-canada#conditions

                                          And worst case, why not just have a receipt for $100 for computer equipment.

                                          What's the tax on that?

                                          You seem to be under the impression that customs agents are dumb. You would be incorrect in my experience.

                                          Tax rate here is 13.5% so potentially saving $500 in tax is not worth the risk. They can seriously mess with you.

                                          2630x1.25x1.135= $3731CDN.... sigh.

                                          Edit: checked xe.com, it's $1.30:1 sobs quietly for the death of his online shopping fun times

                                          YOu are assuming that the low price would be used. Those could easily be taxed based on a higher $5K or so US price.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Virtualization build:

                                            @MattSpeller said in Virtualization build:

                                            I fucking wish we could get pricing like that in Canada.

                                            Shit, have it delivered to the US and drive here pick it up!

                                            We do that. They still tax you. You just have to pray that they don't inspect your car because.... that's jail time.

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