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    • IRJI
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      Do you have a IDS? Most of them can do this.

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        If you are talking about devices on the network,.. isolate by the MAC address - Rouge devices would not matter then as they would not be allowed resources.

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          IRJ @gjacobse
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          @gjacobse said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

          If you are talking about devices on the network,.. isolate by the MAC address - Rouge devices would not matter then as they would not be allowed resources.

          Spoofing a MAC is soooo easy.

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            @IRJ said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

            @gjacobse said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

            If you are talking about devices on the network,.. isolate by the MAC address - Rouge devices would not matter then as they would not be allowed resources.

            Spoofing a MAC is soooo easy.

            that may be,.. however will a 'general user' know how to perform this?

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              Jason Banned @gjacobse
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              @gjacobse said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

              If you are talking about devices on the network,.. isolate by the MAC address - Rouge devices would not matter then as they would not be allowed resources.

              Security is no good without monitoring

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                Jason Banned @IRJ
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                @IRJ said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                Do you have a IDS? Most of them can do this.

                IPS on Palo Alto but I don't think the edge devices detect internal devices connected to the network. We used to use Manage Engine stuff but are moving away from them.

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                  Jason Banned @gjacobse
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                  @gjacobse said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                  @IRJ said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                  @gjacobse said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                  If you are talking about devices on the network,.. isolate by the MAC address - Rouge devices would not matter then as they would not be allowed resources.

                  Spoofing a MAC is soooo easy.

                  that may be,.. however will a 'general user' know how to perform this?

                  We are a fortune 100, we get intentional attacks daily.

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                    @Jason said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                    @gjacobse said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                    @IRJ said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                    @gjacobse said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                    If you are talking about devices on the network,.. isolate by the MAC address - Rouge devices would not matter then as they would not be allowed resources.

                    Spoofing a MAC is soooo easy.

                    that may be,.. however will a 'general user' know how to perform this?

                    We are a fortune 100, we get intentional attacks daily.

                    I am curious to why a fortune 100 company would want to use OpenSource. Of course there is nothing wrong with OpenSource, but that is generally not behavior from a large corp.

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                      Jason Banned @IRJ
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                      @IRJ said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                      I am curious to why a fortune 100 company would want to use OpenSource. Of course there is nothing wrong with OpenSource, but that is generally not behavior from a large corp.

                      Actually it's the default option generally if we can.

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                        IRJ @Jason
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                        @Jason said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                        @IRJ said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                        I am curious to why a fortune 100 company would want to use OpenSource. Of course there is nothing wrong with OpenSource, but that is generally not behavior from a large corp.

                        Actually it's the default option generally if we can.

                        interesting

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                        • dafyreD
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                          Do you just need a network discovery type setup, or something that can tell you "This device is not a corporate device, kill it!" ?

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                            https://lanmarshal.mobilabs.fr/lanmarshal.html#getlanmarshal

                            Found this.. Let's see if it works. Anyone used it before?

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates
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                              AliehVault does NID. Suricata may also be helpful.

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                                JaredBusch @Jason
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                                @Jason said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                                https://lanmarshal.mobilabs.fr/lanmarshal.html#getlanmarshal

                                Found this.. Let's see if it works. Anyone used it before?

                                Looks interesting, but there is no link to anything but the appliance.

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                                  web interface seems to be okay for Lan Marshal, Nmap is installed but doesn't seem to be running (and there for not scanning). Not sure if there is something else I need to do or what.

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                                    @Jason said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                                    web interface seems to be okay for Lan Marshal, Nmap is installed but doesn't seem to be running (and there for not scanning). Not sure if there is something else I need to do or what.

                                    Are you looking for rogue APs, or devices that are connected to your network that shouldn't be?

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                                      Jason Banned @dafyre
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                                      @dafyre said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                                      @Jason said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                                      web interface seems to be okay for Lan Marshal, Nmap is installed but doesn't seem to be running (and there for not scanning). Not sure if there is something else I need to do or what.

                                      Are you looking for rogue APs, or devices that are connected to your network that shouldn't be?

                                      Just devices on the network.

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                                        Out of curiosity, are we filtering for red devices (rouge) or things that don't belong (rogue)?

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                                          Jason Banned @art_of_shred
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                                          @art_of_shred said in OpenSource or free rouge device detection:

                                          Out of curiosity, are we filtering for red devices (rouge) or things that don't belong (rogue)?

                                          BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Fixed it.

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                                          • dafyreD
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                                            For "Just Devices" something like NetDisco is great... You can follow devices around the network. It records what switch and port a MAC address is seen on... and if the device ever shows up on a different network jack, it can record that too.

                                            I also just discovered phpipam (http://phpipam.net/)... It seems to be good at finding devices, but it doesn't track what switch port they're plugged into, etc...

                                            They have a demo available (http://phpipam.net/phpipam-demo/).

                                            PHPIPAM Screen shots...
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