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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
      last edited by

      @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      Hence if he is doing a restore of a DC with another working DC in the domain, it could cause even more issues.

      Or am I totally wrong here?

      There isn't another working DC.

      How do you know that? He said there was one, and the only reason mentioned it might be down was that his PC says "no domain controllers found" but as @JaredBusch has been saying, if DNS is misconfigured, that could also happen, right?

      Okay, yes, it might work if you point to it. But unless machines are pointed at it, it's not working for the machines. So you can't break something as it is not "working" right now.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

        @wirestyle22 stay focused on the above task ^^^

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          FOrked the topic about the DCs because it's not helping the OP during an outage.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @BRRABill
            last edited by

            This post is deleted!
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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              No he said he can't access it.

              He did?

              He did not. You are not crazy.

              He said
              "I'm assuming we must have had a domain syncing problem before this occurred, otherwise the other domain should have picked everything up as it is round robin. I attempted to disconnect my PC from the domain and reconnect. It claims there are no active directory controllers found."

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                last edited by wirestyle22

                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                  last edited by

                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                  When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                  You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                  0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                  I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                  So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                  Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                  Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                  log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                  I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                  No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                  They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                  That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                  Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                  That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                  Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                  Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                  https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                  Yes

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                    When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                    You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                    0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                    I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                    So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                    Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                    Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                    log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                    I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                    No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                    They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                    That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                    Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                    That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                    Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                    Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                    https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                    Yes

                    Downloading. Thanks.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                      last edited by

                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                      When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                      You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                      0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                      I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                      So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                      Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                      Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                      log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                      I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                      No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                      They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                      That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                      Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                      That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                      Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                      Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                      https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                      Yes

                      Downloading. Thanks.

                      You may well hav issues connecting without the right version.

                      When I was managing a number of ESXi hosts, I had to install that thing 4 times on my laptop for it to properly connect to each version

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                        When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                        You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                        0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                        I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                        So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                        Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                        Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                        log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                        I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                        No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                        They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                        That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                        Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                        That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                        Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                        Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                        https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                        Yes

                        Downloading. Thanks.

                        You may well hav issues connecting without the right version.

                        When I was managing a number of ESXi hosts, I had to install that thing 4 times on my laptop for it to properly connect to each version

                        Good to know. Thank you.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                          last edited by

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                          When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                          You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                          0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                          I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                          So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                          Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                          Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                          log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                          I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                          No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                          They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                          That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                          Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                          That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                          Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                          Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                          https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                          Yes

                          Downloading. Thanks.

                          You may well hav issues connecting without the right version.

                          When I was managing a number of ESXi hosts, I had to install that thing 4 times on my laptop for it to properly connect to each version

                          Good to know. Thank you.

                          You have 5.1 but there are multiple versions of 5.1 just FYI.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            No he said he can't access it.

                            He did?

                            He did not. You are not crazy.

                            He said
                            "I'm assuming we must have had a domain syncing problem before this occurred, otherwise the other domain should have picked everything up as it is round robin. I attempted to disconnect my PC from the domain and reconnect. It claims there are no active directory controllers found."

                            That, in no way, suggests that he cant access it.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22
                              last edited by

                              My fingers are numb. I hope I don't have an aneurysm

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                                last edited by wirestyle22

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                                0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                                I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                                So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                                Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                                Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                                log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                                I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                                No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                                They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                                That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                                Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                                That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                                Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                                Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                                https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                                Yes

                                Downloading. Thanks.

                                You may well hav issues connecting without the right version.

                                When I was managing a number of ESXi hosts, I had to install that thing 4 times on my laptop for it to properly connect to each version

                                Good to know. Thank you.

                                You have 5.1 but there are multiple versions of 5.1 just FYI.

                                Installed. Logged in using root.

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                                • RamblingBipedR
                                  RamblingBiped @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  My fingers are numb. I hope I don't have an aneurysm

                                  Take a step back, breath, and focus. This isn't anything to be stressed THAT much over. At the end of the day it's all just a heap of metal. You've isolated your problem, you're just working on what you need to do to fix it.

                                  1. restore the original failed VM to working order

                                  If that doesn't pan out all you need to do is get a DHCP server up and running and point it at your secondary DC for DNS.

                                  The more stressed you are the more that stress is going to reverberate through your office/users. You've got quite a few people here to help with the troubleshooting, you'll get through it.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    My fingers are numb. I hope I don't have an aneurysm

                                    Get a beer, relax. Seriously, or decaf tea or something. Take the time to breath. You should not be overly stressed here.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @RamblingBiped
                                      last edited by

                                      @RamblingBiped said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      The more stressed you are the more that stress is going to reverberate through your office/users. You've got quite a few people here to help with the troubleshooting, you'll get through it.

                                      This is important. Your calm, confident air is what will keep things in order.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @RamblingBiped said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        The more stressed you are the more that stress is going to reverberate through your office/users. You've got quite a few people here to help with the troubleshooting, you'll get through it.

                                        This is important. Your calm, confident air is what will keep things in order.

                                        Yeah you couldn't be at a better place for help. (With the exception of me gumming up the works and requiring a thread fork.)

                                        Take a quick walk outside if you need to clear your head. Breathe in for 5 seconds. Hold for 5 seconds. Breathe out for 5 seconds. Repeat.

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22
                                          last edited by

                                          What are my next steps?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                            What are my next steps?

                                            Can you see the datastore contents with that?

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