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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @bbigford
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      @BBigford said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

      @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

      @BBigford I stay about 2-3 years and then move on but every time I leave it's for a pay raise. I'm at a point where I more or less make what I have wanted to make so now I just have to be disciplined, learn and do my absolute best. It's a weird feeling.

      The issue I find is boredom... most networks I've been in don't grow and explore new offerings. It's a "set and forget" attitude, as well as stifling creative thinking. As soon as I hit that ceiling, I generate a resume.

      Not just talking about SMBs, also talking about networks that support thousands of users across an admin team of a dozen or more.

      I hear you. If I worked with people it would be a much different situation. I really miss being part of a team. I'm a social person.

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        stacksofplates @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

        @Carnival-Boy said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

        @scottalanmiller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

        NTG's a very different environment. Unlike traditional companies, NTG hires for the long haul and has internal development and such. It even provides lab capacity 🙂 What applies most places really doesn't apply there.

        Oh. Is that a US mentality? Companies in the UK still generally hire for the long haul and have internal development, especially large companies (maybe not so much in SMB where career progression is limited). I'd say the majority of my friends that work in IT have worked at the same place for years (20+ years in many cases).

        Almost all companies claim to do this, what they actually do is a little different.

        Reminds me of the job postings for places like Taco Bell where they want "energetic individuals who are passionate about our company." And advertise that they offer "great growth potential and a dynamic workplace."

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          stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

          @Carnival-Boy said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

          @scottalanmiller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

          NTG's a very different environment. Unlike traditional companies, NTG hires for the long haul and has internal development and such. It even provides lab capacity 🙂 What applies most places really doesn't apply there.

          Oh. Is that a US mentality? Companies in the UK still generally hire for the long haul and have internal development, especially large companies (maybe not so much in SMB where career progression is limited). I'd say the majority of my friends that work in IT have worked at the same place for years (20+ years in many cases).

          I cannot speak to everything, but the large company I worked at in the past had minor linear growth but mostly people were sitting there stagnating for 20+ years. I know people that started at the same time as me that are still there doing the same work.

          I have a guess as to what company that was.

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22 @stacksofplates
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            @stacksofplates said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

            @travisdh1 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

            @Carnival-Boy said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

            @scottalanmiller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

            NTG's a very different environment. Unlike traditional companies, NTG hires for the long haul and has internal development and such. It even provides lab capacity 🙂 What applies most places really doesn't apply there.

            Oh. Is that a US mentality? Companies in the UK still generally hire for the long haul and have internal development, especially large companies (maybe not so much in SMB where career progression is limited). I'd say the majority of my friends that work in IT have worked at the same place for years (20+ years in many cases).

            Almost all companies claim to do this, what they actually do is a little different.

            Reminds me of the job postings for places like Taco Bell where they want "energetic individuals who are passionate about our company." And advertise that they offer "great growth potential and a dynamic workplace."

            If you aren't passionate about a 7 layer burrito I don't think we can be friends

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              tiagom @wirestyle22
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              @wirestyle22 or a triple double crunch wrap..

              Great.. You guys made me hungry..

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @tiagom
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                @tiagom You calm down

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @wirestyle22
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                  @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                  @stacksofplates said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                  @travisdh1 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                  @Carnival-Boy said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                  NTG's a very different environment. Unlike traditional companies, NTG hires for the long haul and has internal development and such. It even provides lab capacity 🙂 What applies most places really doesn't apply there.

                  Oh. Is that a US mentality? Companies in the UK still generally hire for the long haul and have internal development, especially large companies (maybe not so much in SMB where career progression is limited). I'd say the majority of my friends that work in IT have worked at the same place for years (20+ years in many cases).

                  Almost all companies claim to do this, what they actually do is a little different.

                  Reminds me of the job postings for places like Taco Bell where they want "energetic individuals who are passionate about our company." And advertise that they offer "great growth potential and a dynamic workplace."

                  If you aren't passionate about a 7 layer burrito I don't think we can be friends

                  Don't even get me started. All we have for psudo-wanna-be-greasy-nightmare-excuse-for-Mexican Food is a rip off of Taco Bell without any of the really greasy delicious things.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
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                    @MattSpeller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                    @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                    @stacksofplates said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                    @travisdh1 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                    @Carnival-Boy said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                    NTG's a very different environment. Unlike traditional companies, NTG hires for the long haul and has internal development and such. It even provides lab capacity 🙂 What applies most places really doesn't apply there.

                    Oh. Is that a US mentality? Companies in the UK still generally hire for the long haul and have internal development, especially large companies (maybe not so much in SMB where career progression is limited). I'd say the majority of my friends that work in IT have worked at the same place for years (20+ years in many cases).

                    Almost all companies claim to do this, what they actually do is a little different.

                    Reminds me of the job postings for places like Taco Bell where they want "energetic individuals who are passionate about our company." And advertise that they offer "great growth potential and a dynamic workplace."

                    If you aren't passionate about a 7 layer burrito I don't think we can be friends

                    Don't even get me started. All we have for psudo-wanna-be-greasy-nightmare-excuse-for-Mexican Food is a rip off of Taco Bell without any of the really greasy delicious things.

                    At least your police force is on horseback though right?

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                      @MattSpeller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                      @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                      @stacksofplates said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                      @travisdh1 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                      @Carnival-Boy said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                      NTG's a very different environment. Unlike traditional companies, NTG hires for the long haul and has internal development and such. It even provides lab capacity 🙂 What applies most places really doesn't apply there.

                      Oh. Is that a US mentality? Companies in the UK still generally hire for the long haul and have internal development, especially large companies (maybe not so much in SMB where career progression is limited). I'd say the majority of my friends that work in IT have worked at the same place for years (20+ years in many cases).

                      Almost all companies claim to do this, what they actually do is a little different.

                      Reminds me of the job postings for places like Taco Bell where they want "energetic individuals who are passionate about our company." And advertise that they offer "great growth potential and a dynamic workplace."

                      If you aren't passionate about a 7 layer burrito I don't think we can be friends

                      Don't even get me started. All we have for psudo-wanna-be-greasy-nightmare-excuse-for-Mexican Food is a rip off of Taco Bell without any of the really greasy delicious things.

                      At least your police force is on horseback though right?

                      http://wulol.com/media/uploads/2013/10/TheMostCanadianPicEver-91028.jpg

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller @wirestyle22
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                        @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                        @MattSpeller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                        @stacksofplates said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                        @travisdh1 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                        @Carnival-Boy said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                        NTG's a very different environment. Unlike traditional companies, NTG hires for the long haul and has internal development and such. It even provides lab capacity 🙂 What applies most places really doesn't apply there.

                        Oh. Is that a US mentality? Companies in the UK still generally hire for the long haul and have internal development, especially large companies (maybe not so much in SMB where career progression is limited). I'd say the majority of my friends that work in IT have worked at the same place for years (20+ years in many cases).

                        Almost all companies claim to do this, what they actually do is a little different.

                        Reminds me of the job postings for places like Taco Bell where they want "energetic individuals who are passionate about our company." And advertise that they offer "great growth potential and a dynamic workplace."

                        If you aren't passionate about a 7 layer burrito I don't think we can be friends

                        Don't even get me started. All we have for psudo-wanna-be-greasy-nightmare-excuse-for-Mexican Food is a rip off of Taco Bell without any of the really greasy delicious things.

                        At least your police force is on horseback though right?

                        This is a better pic. Sorry.

                        http://media.darpanmagazine.com/news/content/tim-hortons1.jpg

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @MattSpeller
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                          @MattSpeller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                          @MattSpeller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                          @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                          @stacksofplates said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                          @travisdh1 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                          @Carnival-Boy said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                          NTG's a very different environment. Unlike traditional companies, NTG hires for the long haul and has internal development and such. It even provides lab capacity 🙂 What applies most places really doesn't apply there.

                          Oh. Is that a US mentality? Companies in the UK still generally hire for the long haul and have internal development, especially large companies (maybe not so much in SMB where career progression is limited). I'd say the majority of my friends that work in IT have worked at the same place for years (20+ years in many cases).

                          Almost all companies claim to do this, what they actually do is a little different.

                          Reminds me of the job postings for places like Taco Bell where they want "energetic individuals who are passionate about our company." And advertise that they offer "great growth potential and a dynamic workplace."

                          If you aren't passionate about a 7 layer burrito I don't think we can be friends

                          Don't even get me started. All we have for psudo-wanna-be-greasy-nightmare-excuse-for-Mexican Food is a rip off of Taco Bell without any of the really greasy delicious things.

                          At least your police force is on horseback though right?

                          This is a better pic. Sorry.

                          http://media.darpanmagazine.com/news/content/tim-hortons1.jpg

                          The proud legacy of the mounties.

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @coliver
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                            @coliver said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                            @MattSpeller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                            @MattSpeller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                            @stacksofplates said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                            @travisdh1 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                            @Carnival-Boy said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                            NTG's a very different environment. Unlike traditional companies, NTG hires for the long haul and has internal development and such. It even provides lab capacity 🙂 What applies most places really doesn't apply there.

                            Oh. Is that a US mentality? Companies in the UK still generally hire for the long haul and have internal development, especially large companies (maybe not so much in SMB where career progression is limited). I'd say the majority of my friends that work in IT have worked at the same place for years (20+ years in many cases).

                            Almost all companies claim to do this, what they actually do is a little different.

                            Reminds me of the job postings for places like Taco Bell where they want "energetic individuals who are passionate about our company." And advertise that they offer "great growth potential and a dynamic workplace."

                            If you aren't passionate about a 7 layer burrito I don't think we can be friends

                            Don't even get me started. All we have for psudo-wanna-be-greasy-nightmare-excuse-for-Mexican Food is a rip off of Taco Bell without any of the really greasy delicious things.

                            At least your police force is on horseback though right?

                            This is a better pic. Sorry.

                            http://media.darpanmagazine.com/news/content/tim-hortons1.jpg

                            The proud legacy of the mounties.

                            They still ride horses. However they are also defacto police for most of Canada... so... cars are more practical.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
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                              @MattSpeller http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Canada/United-States/Crime

                              Rape Rate and Violent Crime Murder Rates are specifically crazy

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @wirestyle22
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                                @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                                @MattSpeller http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Canada/United-States/Crime

                                Rape Rate and Violent Crime Murder Rates are specifically crazy

                                80.25 crimes per 1000 people. That seems pretty high.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                  @coliver said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                                  @MattSpeller http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Canada/United-States/Crime

                                  Rape Rate and Violent Crime Murder Rates are specifically crazy

                                  80.25 crimes per 1000 people. That seems pretty high.

                                  Wow

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Must be maple related crimes.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22
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                                      It's Canada. I think not greeting someone is a crime there

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver
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                                        When you really dig into that site some claims are interesting. For instance a female is twice as likely, as a percentage of the populations, to get raped in Canada as they are in the US. Suicide rates, as a percentage of the population, are also much higher in Canada.

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                                        • bbigfordB
                                          bbigford @coliver
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                                          @coliver said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                                          @MattSpeller http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Canada/United-States/Crime

                                          Rape Rate and Violent Crime Murder Rates are specifically crazy

                                          80.25 crimes per 1000 people. That seems pretty high.

                                          This one has Idaho at 6th... hmm

                                          http://www.usa.com/rank/us--crime-index--state-rank.htm

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                            @coliver said in Merits of Staying Long Term with a Job or Moving More Rapidly:

                                            For instance a female is twice as likely, as a percentage of the populations, to get raped in Canada as they are in the US.

                                            How did you find that? The listed numbers listed it as "rate", which means that the percentage of population is already considered. So how did it get to twice, conflicting with teh posted rate?

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