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      Francesco Provino @olivier
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      @olivier I think that the right way to provide a "templatized" VM is to customize a cloud OS image via libguestfs or similar tools, going through the whole installation process is just nonsense for VMs. Poor windows users…

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        olivier @Francesco Provino
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        @Francesco-Provino Solution is creating a template with CloudInit process, then Xen Orchestra can do the rest. See https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/full-cloudinit-power-in-xenserver/

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          BRRABill
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          My new take on XS is to not touch XS. It's like Fight Club.

          The easy way for ISOs I found was...

          a) set up a new Linux Mint VM
          b) set up an anonymous share
          c) add ISOs
          d) done

          Windows works, but it;s hard to do anonymous shares, I've always found. You could create a user, which I did initially, but I've since moved to a small Mint instance and haven't looked back.

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            Francesco Provino @olivier
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            @olivier or via cloudinit, exactly, I just forgot to add it.

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              olivier @Francesco Provino
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              @Francesco-Provino said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

              @olivier or via cloudinit, exactly, I just forgot to add it.

              The thing is we already have CloudInit support, so it would be a shame to not using it πŸ˜›

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                olivier @BRRABill
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                @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                My new take on XS is to not touch XS. It's like Fight Club.

                The easy way for ISOs I found was...

                a) set up a new Linux Mint VM
                b) set up an anonymous share
                c) add ISOs
                d) done

                Windows works, but it;s hard to do anonymous shares, I've always found. You could create a user, which I did initially, but I've since moved to a small Mint instance and haven't looked back.

                That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22
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                  Thoughts @scottalanmiller ?

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                    BRRABill @olivier
                    last edited by

                    @olivier said

                    That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

                    Yeah, just giving options. πŸ™‚

                    There are many. πŸ™‚

                    Anything that can share files would work. I just find sharing files anonymously through Windows maddening.

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                      olivier @BRRABill
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                      @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                      @olivier said

                      That's a way to do it also yes. In general, I've got always a physical machine (eg for backup) with enough space to do that. Doesn't require much bandwidth and power to simply share ISOs.

                      Yeah, just giving options. πŸ™‚

                      There are many. πŸ™‚

                      Anything that can share files would work. I just find sharing files anonymously through Windows maddening.

                      I have no idea, last time I tried it was 10 years ago.

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                        BRRABill @olivier
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                        @olivier said

                        I have no idea, last time I tried it was 10 years ago.

                        It's probably why you moved on! πŸ˜‰

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22
                          last edited by wirestyle22

                          If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting in XS? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

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                            BRRABill @wirestyle22
                            last edited by BRRABill

                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                            If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

                            You could create a local account on your machine, give it access to the shared directory, and use that when you mount from XS.

                            That's what I did initially.

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                              wirestyle22 @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                              @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                              If I shared my SSD on my desktop how would I handle the permissions for mounting? I did attempt this but it failed. Granted I had to leave immediately after and didnt get the chance to troubleshoot it.

                              You could create a local account on your machine, give it access to the shared directory, and use that when you mount from XS.

                              That's what I did initially.

                              I'll give this all a go when I get home and report back. Thanks everyone!

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                              • wirestyle22W
                                wirestyle22
                                last edited by wirestyle22

                                Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

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                                  dafyre @wirestyle22
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                                  @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                  Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                  I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

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                                    wirestyle22 @dafyre
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                                    @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                    Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                    I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                    Virtual?

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                                      coliver @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                      @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                      Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                      I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                      Virtual?

                                      Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

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                                        dafyre @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 Sorry, yeah.

                                        Unless you're running a lot of heavily used VMs, a dual or quadcore CPU would be fine. My box at home runs a quad core cpu and has 5 or 6 VMs on it with no issues.

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                                          wirestyle22 @coliver
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                                          @coliver said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                          I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                          Virtual?

                                          Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

                                          Just for my own knowledge, what would be a good reason to go physical? Just for a point of reference.

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                                            dafyre @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @coliver said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @dafyre said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                            Extremely easy install. Everything up and running. Reading/Testing more tonight. How are you guys determining the need for virtual/physical cores per server etc?

                                            I think the general consensus is to start with one core and add more if performance sucks.

                                            Virtual?

                                            Always! You should have a reason to be physical otherwise virtual.

                                            Just for my own knowledge, what would be a good reason to go physical? Just for a point of reference.

                                            Again... General concensus around here is the only thing you need Physical for is to install the hypervisor. Everything should be virtual these days. πŸ™‚

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