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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      Also @olivier I think it would be a great opportunity as well for you to offer general XS support as well.

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      • olivierO
        olivier @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

        @olivier An aside, have you considered selling general XS support? Even for those not necessarily running XO? Just wondered if it was ever considered as a lower cost alternative to inclusive support from Citrix might be a valuable market offering.

        @DustinB3403 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

        Also @olivier I think it would be a great opportunity as well for you to offer general XS support as well.

        I don't think you really imagine the colossal amount of work needed to do that. I got ONE customer with XS support included, and during the XS7 disk bug, I spent almost an entire week helping him. Multiply this by more or less 100, and you see the problem. It's not doable with our current size: we can't sell something we can't be sure to deliver. Plus we'll need a team able to be up 24/7, which needs around 8 people dedicated to at least having someone covering a time slot.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @olivier
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          @olivier you don't need to jump to offering it publicly until you can scale up. Offer it to a select client or two at most.

          See how it progresses from there.

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          • olivierO
            olivier @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 That's exactly what I've done with one client, and I'm stopping there.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @olivier
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              @olivier said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

              @DustinB3403 That's exactly what I've done with one client, and I'm stopping there.

              Ah, I misunderstood your last post, I thought it was theoretical

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              • olivierO
                olivier @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 No that was real ^^

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                  My biggest complaint with XS is not having any simple method to attach a local ISO repository. Horribly critical flaw (not really).

                  I completely agree.

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22
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                    "Use your RAID card to expose to logical volumes (disks) to XS directly. Give it one small one, like 70GB, for XenServer itself. And all the rest for the SR (VM storage.) [If you lack this functionality or are not familiar with this process, post a question here in ML and include the RAID controller that you are using so that we can assist!]"

                    Hi! So I have a Dell PERC H700. Looked around inside of the PERC settings and didn't see a way to do this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                      @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                      "Use your RAID card to expose to logical volumes (disks) to XS directly. Give it one small one, like 70GB, for XenServer itself. And all the rest for the SR (VM storage.) [If you lack this functionality or are not familiar with this process, post a question here in ML and include the RAID controller that you are using so that we can assist!]"

                      Hi! So I have a Dell PERC H700. Looked around inside of the PERC settings and didn't see a way to do this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

                      Looking through the H700 manual, it does not appear to support logical volumes on the RAID card.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                        @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                        "Use your RAID card to expose to logical volumes (disks) to XS directly. Give it one small one, like 70GB, for XenServer itself. And all the rest for the SR (VM storage.) [If you lack this functionality or are not familiar with this process, post a question here in ML and include the RAID controller that you are using so that we can assist!]"

                        Hi! So I have a Dell PERC H700. Looked around inside of the PERC settings and didn't see a way to do this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

                        Looking through the H700 manual, it does not appear to support logical volumes on the RAID card.

                        Good to know it's not me. Thanks!

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @wirestyle22
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                          @wirestyle22

                          What I ended up doing (though I didn't use it, used USB/SD which I am looking to move away from) was just setting up two small disks as a separate RAID1 array just for the boot device.

                          $140ish from xByte so not crazy expensive.

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                          • olivierO
                            olivier @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill I like use refurb parts for that, like https://www.servershop24.de/en/components/controller/sas/hp-smart-array-p400-raid-controller-256-mb-sas-pci-e-447029-001-low-profile/a-105422/

                            Unbeatable price/perf ratio.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @BRRABill
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                              @BRRABill I did run into complications while trying to create an ISO Library. It seems pretty unintuitive to me.

                              mkdir -p /var/opt/xen/ISO_Lib

                              xe sr-create name-label=LocalISO type=iso device-config:location=/var/opt/xen/ISO_Store device-config:legacy_mode=true content-type=iso

                              cd /var/opt/xen/ISO_Lib

                              I then ran into issues locating the actual link so I could wget

                              I found this one eventually: http://care.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/7/5/E/75EC4E54-5B02-42D6-8879-D8D3A25FBEF7/7601.17514.101119-1850_x64fre_server_eval_en-us-GRMSXEVAL_EN_DVD.iso?lcid=1033&cprod=WinSvr2

                              I didn't see any failure notifications. However, there was also no ISO's listed in the library.

                              I ran df -h to find disk usage and it didn't have enough space so I switched to my 8 TB GPT Partition.

                              cd /var/run/sr-mount/etc etc etc code/

                              Then I went through the process of creating another directory. I moved it to the new ISO_Lib folder and ran this:

                              xe sr-create name-label=ISO_Lib type=iso device-config:location=/var/run/sr-mount/etc etc etc code/ISO_Storage device-config:legacy_mode=true content-type=iso

                              To make it an ISO library. Nothing is listed in there. Is it me or this so much just to create local storage?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                                @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                @BRRABill I did run into complications while trying to create an ISO Library. It seems pretty unintuitive to me.

                                mkdir -p /var/opt/xen/ISO_Lib

                                xe sr-create name-label=LocalISO type=iso device-config:location=/var/opt/xen/ISO_Store device-config:legacy_mode=true content-type=iso

                                cd /var/opt/xen/ISO_Lib

                                I then ran into issues locating the actual link so I could wget

                                I found this one eventually: http://care.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/7/5/E/75EC4E54-5B02-42D6-8879-D8D3A25FBEF7/7601.17514.101119-1850_x64fre_server_eval_en-us-GRMSXEVAL_EN_DVD.iso?lcid=1033&cprod=WinSvr2

                                I didn't see any failure notifications. However, there was also no ISO's listed in the library.

                                I ran df -h to find disk usage and it didn't have enough space so I switched to my 8 TB GPT Partition.

                                cd /var/run/sr-mount/etc etc etc code/

                                Then I went through the process of creating another directory. I moved it to the new ISO_Lib folder and ran this:

                                xe sr-create name-label=ISO_Lib type=iso device-config:location=/var/run/sr-mount/etc etc etc code/ISO_Storage device-config:legacy_mode=true content-type=iso

                                To make it an ISO library. Nothing is listed in there. Is it me or this so much just to create local storage?

                                The reason being that LOCAL repo's aren't supported, is that it literally takes nothing to share out a drive from a windows desktop and connect to it via XenCenter (or XO).

                                It's a 5 minute process.

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                                • olivierO
                                  olivier @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by olivier

                                  @wirestyle22 You need to rescan the SR to find freshly downloaded ISOs.

                                  edit: local share are not officially supported by Citrix, so you can do it but if you can use a NFS/SMB share somewhere, that's even better 😉

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                    @BRRABill I did run into complications while trying to create an ISO Library. It seems pretty unintuitive to me.

                                    mkdir -p /var/opt/xen/ISO_Lib

                                    xe sr-create name-label=LocalISO type=iso device-config:location=/var/opt/xen/ISO_Store device-config:legacy_mode=true content-type=iso

                                    cd /var/opt/xen/ISO_Lib

                                    I then ran into issues locating the actual link so I could wget

                                    I found this one eventually: http://care.dlservice.microsoft.com/download/7/5/E/75EC4E54-5B02-42D6-8879-D8D3A25FBEF7/7601.17514.101119-1850_x64fre_server_eval_en-us-GRMSXEVAL_EN_DVD.iso?lcid=1033&cprod=WinSvr2

                                    I didn't see any failure notifications. However, there was also no ISO's listed in the library.

                                    I ran df -h to find disk usage and it didn't have enough space so I switched to my 8 TB GPT Partition.

                                    cd /var/run/sr-mount/etc etc etc code/

                                    Then I went through the process of creating another directory. I moved it to the new ISO_Lib folder and ran this:

                                    xe sr-create name-label=ISO_Lib type=iso device-config:location=/var/run/sr-mount/etc etc etc code/ISO_Storage device-config:legacy_mode=true content-type=iso

                                    To make it an ISO library. Nothing is listed in there. Is it me or this so much just to create local storage?

                                    The reason being that LOCAL repo's aren't supported, is that it literally takes nothing to share out a drive from a windows desktop and connect to it via XenCenter (or XO).

                                    It's a 5 minute process.

                                    Yeah but there isn't a single use case for local storage? Ever?

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @olivier
                                      last edited by

                                      @olivier said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                      @wirestyle22 You need to rescan the SR to find freshly downloaded ISOs.

                                      edit: local share are not officially supported by Citrix, so you can do it but if you can use a NFS/SMB share somewhere, that's even better 😉

                                      How do you handle permissions? This is my first time 😄

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                                      • olivierO
                                        olivier @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 If you made the wget with root, no problem, XAPI is running as root too (and default perms in here should be OK). So after you Wget is done, just ls to be sure your ISO is here. Then, rescan the SR with the appropriate interface (Xen Orchestra or XenCenter).

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @olivier
                                          last edited by

                                          @olivier said in What You Need to Know About XenServer:

                                          @wirestyle22 If you made the wget with root, no problem, XAPI is running as root too (and default perms in here should be OK). So after you Wget is done, just ls to be sure your ISO is here. Then, rescan the SR with the appropriate interface (Xen Orchestra or XenCenter).

                                          I attempted a rescan with XC and nothing popped up. I'm not home right now to really go through it unfortunately. Maybe I'll configure remote access tonight so I can tinker. Everything for me currently is being run in root. Not trying to complicate my life too much yet 😄

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                                            Francesco Provino @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 in truth, you can just create an LVM volume with a filesystem upon it, store the ISOs there and mount it as a SR. The real issue is that at the reboot XS7 will stop doing consistency check of LVM. That's totally repeatable.

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