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    Anyone seen such cabling?

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    • nadnerBN
      nadnerB
      last edited by nadnerB

      I've not seen anything that bad but I have used analogue/digital splitters (for putting analogue and digital signal down one network point. You then have to split out again at the patch panel)... It makes the comms racks look really messy but it means you don't have to drill holes and pull cables through expensive apartments

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        why would you need this?

        By default the center pair of wires are where they are so you can use a mail RJ11 in a RJ45 female plug, no converter needed.

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        • nadnerBN
          nadnerB @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          why would you need this?

          By default the center pair of wires are where they are so you can use a mail RJ11 in a RJ45 female plug, no converter needed.

          <Robert De Niro>
          You talkin to me?
          </Robbert DeNiro>

          lol

          Well, when you have one network point and two services that need to go through it...

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            How much are those dongles?

            A cable run costs me about $120/ea if I have someone else do it. If I do it myself, eh, It might be less, though not likely.

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            • nadnerBN
              nadnerB @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said:

              How much are those dongles?

              A cable run costs me about $120/ea if I have someone else do it. If I do it myself, eh, It might be less, though not likely.

              Not sure now... but I think it was $6.
              To a Not-For Profit, $12 per pair is hard to top plus the added flexibility because the residents were always changing their minds

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                I wonder how badly speeds are affected by running ring tone down the same cable as ethernet?

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                • nadnerBN
                  nadnerB @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  I wonder how badly speeds are affected by running ring tone down the same cable as ethernet?

                  Voice quality was good and ethernet was stable and seemingly unaffected.
                  The apartment network design was a total balls up and the ugly splitters were an inexpensive solution to a problem that wouldn't have been there is more thought was put into the network termination points. 😞

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @Ambarishrh
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                    @Ambarishrh I had such a cable for an old line tester except that it had an RJ45 and RJ11 plug so I could easily tone to different lines.

                    Yeah it's a hack job, but it worked for what I needed.

                    Running 2 printers off of something like this, yes it's shady but it works.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said:

                      I wonder how badly speeds are affected by running ring tone down the same cable as ethernet?

                      Fast Ethernet only ever uses 2 pair. So really nothing too bad here.

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                      • PSX_DefectorP
                        PSX_Defector @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @Dashrender said:

                        I wonder how badly speeds are affected by running ring tone down the same cable as ethernet?

                        Fast Ethernet only ever uses 2 pair. So really nothing too bad here.

                        And we are talking about 2v on hook. This isn't much in the grand scheme of things. If it's standard telephone, off hook would be 50v to hold the circuit open. And that's if it was coming from a central office on a POTS line. On a PBX, the voltage to hold a line open is considerably smaller.

                        If someone was using flat 8 strand to run their ethernet along with a POTS line to the endpoint, perhaps there would be a problem.

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                          marcinozga
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                          I have witnessed installation of such cable first hand many times. It happened a lot in the past, before 1Gbit became affordable, and customer wouldn't want to run another cable. My co-worker used to love these kind of "hacks", and it worked without any issues at 100Mbit. He even did poor man's POE over similar setup - power plugs/jack on both ends of the cable.

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