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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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      @IT-ADMIN said:

      yes they are missing, i can't install them

      They are needed for that kind of functionality. It is the PV drivers that allow the guest to communicate with the host.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        i tried to mount the xenserver tool iso but it looks like my centos version is not compatible with xenserver

        That does not sound right. What version of each are you running? We've used every modern version of CentOS on XenServer.

        Ideally you install CentOS as PV, not as virtualized and then add PV drivers. CentOS is Linux and has a level of Xen support that exists in no other OS family.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          Oh, because you brought over from VMware Workstation (which is a different architecture) you broke the compatibility for Xen. I'm not sure how difficult it will be to convert now.

          Just do a fresh install.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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            @IT-ADMIN said:

            i guess my centos version 6.5 is not supported, this is what a get

            XenServer's own Dom0 is built on 6.5. It's the most compatible version. The issue is the P2V from VMware which can't do paravirtualization that is the problem.

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            • IT-ADMINI
              IT-ADMIN
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              oh i see, so the next frech install i should do it from the begining PV right

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                IT-ADMIN
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                is there any differance btw virtualized and PV ??

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  oh i see, so the next frech install i should do it from the begining PV right

                  Yes, a fresh install is quite important here for multiple reasons that you have encountered.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    is there any differance btw virtualized and PV ??

                    Yes, very different. That's why there are two names and why you are having problems here 🙂

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      http://mangolassi.it/topic/5916/a-quick-understanding-of-full-virtualization-and-paravirtualization

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                        IT-ADMIN
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                        do you mean by PV driver ::: the xenserver tool ??

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          do you mean by PV driver ::: the xenserver tool ??

                          that is the XenServer name for their PV drivers, yes.

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
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                            what about the PV driver of the guest, what we call them ???

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN
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                              maybe front-end drivers

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                what about the PV driver of the guest, what we call them ???

                                They are called PV Drivers, that is the only industry name for them and the only thing that would make sense.

                                Drivers only exists for the guest, there is no such concept as PV drivers for the host.

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                                  it looks like XenServer was a bad choice for me, especially for my specific need which is hosting freePBX and pfSense, none of them existed in Xenserver template, this mean that they will be full viritualized and not taking benefit of paravirtularized unless you have deep knowledge in both Linux and freeBSD to make a custom kernel and some other scary staff that someone like me cannot do it,

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                                    IT-ADMIN
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                                    the key fearture of xenserver is PV and what make people to choose over other hypervisors is PV, so if i will be deprived from this powerful feature (because the VM i want to host cannot be PV easily and require deep knowledge which is not the case with me) then i have to change the hypervisor since i can't take benefit from it.

                                    so what is the best hypervisor for these kind of distro like freePBX and pfsense ???

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      it looks like XenServer was a bad choice for me, especially for my specific need which is hosting freePBX and pfSense, none of them existed in Xenserver template, this mean that they will be full viritualized and not taking benefit of paravirtularized unless you have deep knowledge in both Linux and freeBSD to make a custom kernel and some other scary staff that someone like me cannot do it,

                                      That would not make XenServer a bad choice in any way. It would, at very worst, make it an equal choice. Equal is not bad. If you went with HyperV, you'd have this limitation always.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                                        the key fearture of xenserver is PV and what make people to choose over other hypervisors is PV...

                                        That's an incredibly misleading statement. It's correct, but misleading. It is true that PV is the most key feature. However, XenServer is still more mature, easier to use, more powerful, more flexible and has many other unique features making it better than HyperV (in those ways.)

                                        You state this as if losing one feature, because it is a key one, would make HyperV a better choice. But what benefits does HyperV have that make you feel that way with or without PV?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          ... then i have to change the hypervisor since i can't take benefit from it.

                                          This part of the statement is a logical fallacy. This should in no way be the conclusion that you reached from the statement that you made.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                                            so what is the best hypervisor for these kind of distro like freePBX and pfsense ???

                                            Xen

                                            HyperV is okay, but Xen is better when dealing with these kinds of workloads. HyperV has no benefits here.

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