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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse
      last edited by

      We were sent this file from their corporate office:

      detroitpacket.png

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Is that really 8% packet loss!?!

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        • coliverC
          coliver @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Is that really 8% packet loss!?!

          I can't see the line for packet loss though... it looks like around 4:00 pm and 1AM that there is loss... but I can't really tell.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @gjacobse
            last edited by

            @g.jacobse said:

            We were sent this file from their corporate office:

            detroitpacket.png

            If the 8% loss is really what is seen... then you have your issue right there. Something is wrong with the line.

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse
              last edited by gjacobse

              This was edited.

              The 8 is the last part of the site name - blanked to remove site / client details.

              detroitpacket2.png

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Oh, how much packet loss is there?

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse
                  last edited by gjacobse

                  Something that has been bothering me a bit is MAC addresses.

                  While it is not a 'end all' tool, I used AngryIP to scan the vLAN .100 - .189 to find all the active IPs. I added MAC access resolution to the scan and when it was done, all 25 IPs had the same MAC address.

                  I've logged into half of the phones and the phone GUI shows that they are different per phone.

                  Doing an ARP -a give this:

                  Interface: xxx.xx.5.111 --- 0xc
                    Internet Address      Physical Address      Type
                    xxx.xx.xx.100         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.101         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.102         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.103         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.104         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.105         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.106         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.107         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.108         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.109         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.110         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.111         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.112         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.113         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.114         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.115         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.116         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.117         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.118         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.119         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.120         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.121         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.122         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.123         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.124         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.125         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.126         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.127         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.128         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.129         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.130         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.131         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.132         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.133         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.134         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.135         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.136         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.137         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.138         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.139         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.140         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.141         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.142         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.143         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.144         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.145         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.146         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.147         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.148         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.149         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.150         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.151         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.152         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.153         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.154         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.155         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.156         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.157         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.158         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.159         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.160         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.161         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.162         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.163         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.164         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.165         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.166         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.167         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.168         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.169         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.170         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.171         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.172         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.173         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.174         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.175         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.176         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.177         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.178         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.179         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.180         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.181         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.182         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.183         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.184         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.185         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.186         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                    xxx.xx.xx.187         00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f     dynamic
                  
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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    Is there NAT involved in their VPN?

                    Either that or some other routing problem.

                    I bet that MAC is the router.

                    If so randomize the SIP port on all the phones. Your problem will go away.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by JaredBusch

                      @g.jacobse said:

                      00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f

                      A lookup shows that as Force10 Networks.?
                      http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/?string=00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f

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                      • gjacobseG
                        gjacobse @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @g.jacobse said:

                        00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f

                        A lookup shows that as Force10 Networks.?
                        http://www.coffer.com/mac_find/?string=00-01-e8-d7-ab-5f

                        Confirmed. Switch as the other end of the VPN.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @g.jacobse said:

                          Confirmed. Switch as the other end of the VPN.

                          Change the phones to use some port other than 5060 for the SIP registration.
                          Make sure they are all different as you cannot reuse the same port behind a NAT and this issue is looking to me like that.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            Well, that or make who ever runs the network figure out what is happening on their side.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @g.jacobse said:

                              Confirmed. Switch as the other end of the VPN.

                              Change the phones to use some port other than 5060 for the SIP registration.
                              Make sure they are all different as you cannot reuse the same port behind a NAT and this issue is looking to me like that.

                              Would the usage of a STUN server solve this issue?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                Well, that or make who ever runs the network figure out what is happening on their side.

                                That is proving difficult.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said:

                                  Would the usage of a STUN server solve this issue?

                                  Should not be any NAT.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @coliver
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said:

                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @g.jacobse said:

                                    Confirmed. Switch as the other end of the VPN.

                                    Change the phones to use some port other than 5060 for the SIP registration.
                                    Make sure they are all different as you cannot reuse the same port behind a NAT and this issue is looking to me like that.

                                    Would the usage of a STUN server solve this issue?

                                    Yes, but you would have to set one up internally as they obviously have everything inside the VPN.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @coliver said:

                                      Would the usage of a STUN server solve this issue?

                                      Should not be any NAT.

                                      Should not be any NAT, but it sure is acting like it if everything is reporting the same MAC.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        Yeah, that is very fishy.

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                                        • gjacobseG
                                          gjacobse
                                          last edited by

                                          Statement I was given regarding the MACs

                                          ...as an aside, this has nothing to do with the, or any, firewall.  This is normal layer2/layer3 handoff in any network...
                                          
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                                          • NetworkNerdN
                                            NetworkNerd
                                            last edited by

                                            To give background here, the Fortigate has a Juniper L3 switch connected to it. Supposedly the config on that guy has not changed, but I don't think we really know.

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