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    Does turning off the virtualization features make your CPU go faster for non-virtualized workloads?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      The issues have mostly been around array failure. Either at run time or at reboot that the array simply fails and the array is lost with or without a drive failure. The software RAID equivalent of a DAC, I suppose. I have no doubt that Microsoft is putting tremendous effort into addressing traditional shortcomings and working to catch up to their decade-long lag versus Solaris and other platforms on this. But Storage Spaces is still nascent and needs time to prove its reliability because I will be comfortable recommending it given a twenty year history of problems with the product and some continuing reports of issues still.

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller @creayt
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        @creayt said:

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        What RAID level is giving you those numbers?

        The 1:10 Sequential ratio seems really wrong.

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        • creaytC
          creayt @MattSpeller
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          @MattSpeller said:

          @creayt said:

          booms.png

          What RAID level is giving you those numbers?

          The 1:10 Sequential ratio seems really wrong.

          That's literally a SINGLE 850 Pro 256 GB using the box's RAM as a write back cache ( Samsung's "rapid mode" ).

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @creayt
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            @creayt ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ok - that was messing with my brain. thank you for clarification.

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            • creaytC
              creayt @MattSpeller
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              @MattSpeller said:

              @creayt ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ok - that was messing with my brain. thank you for clarification.

              NP.

              I should note in case it matters that it's a quad 3.8 Ghz Xeon w/ HT and 32 GB DDR3 1600.

              My dual-core i7-5500U w/ 8GB of RAM puts these up w/ a single 840 Evo though, notice the awkwardly spectacular 6GB write.

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller @creayt
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                @creayt I'm going home to benchmark my (comparitively) budget build 8320 / 840pro

                I don't think I have the software installed for the RAM drive boost thingy whatever - I should investigate that.

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                • creaytC
                  creayt @MattSpeller
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                  @MattSpeller said:

                  @creayt I'm going home to benchmark my (comparitively) budget build 8320 / 840pro

                  I don't think I have the software installed for the RAM drive boost thingy whatever - I should investigate that.

                  What you want is Samsung Magician:
                  http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/support/downloads.html

                  It also lets you overprovision the drive while booted into Windows in a few clicks.

                  To get these ridic numbers I overprovision really hard, above 25%, FYI. Because it uses the system RAM as the cache ( I think you need at least 8 to even enable "rapid mode", but the more you have the better ).

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @creayt
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                    @creayt sweet, will investigate!

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Remember that the more RAM that you use as cache, the more data is potentially in flight during a power loss. If you have 128GB of RAM cache for your storage, that could be a tremendous amount of data that never makes it to the disk.

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                      • creaytC
                        creayt @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Remember that the more RAM that you use as cache, the more data is potentially in flight during a power loss. If you have 128GB of RAM cache for your storage, that could be a tremendous amount of data that never makes it to the disk.

                        So would your recommendation be "Storage Spaces aren't fit for production, always, always go hardware RAID if you're running a mission-critical database"?

                        And if so, given my hardware:
                        R620
                        10x 1TB 850 Pro SSDs
                        2x Xeon E5-2680 octos
                        256GB DDR 1600 ECC

                        And my workload:
                        Single web app that's a hybrid between a personal to do app and a full enterprise project manager
                        IIS
                        Java-based app server
                        MySQL
                        MongoDB
                        Node JS

                        Would your recommendation be to just go OBR10?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Yes, OBR10 and hardware RAID would be my recommendation. Even if you sacrifice a little speed, the protection against failure is a bit better. I would sleep better with hardware RAID there.

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                          • creaytC
                            creayt @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Yes, OBR10 and hardware RAID would be my recommendation. Even if you sacrifice a little speed, the protection against failure is a bit better. I would sleep better with hardware RAID there.

                            Do you have any blog posts on what block size settings to use for web app/database mixed-load OBR10s? Or a favorite primer link you hand out to newbs?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @creayt
                              last edited by

                              @creayt said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Yes, OBR10 and hardware RAID would be my recommendation. Even if you sacrifice a little speed, the protection against failure is a bit better. I would sleep better with hardware RAID there.

                              Do you have any blog posts on what block size settings to use for web app/database mixed-load OBR10s? Or a favorite primer link you hand out to newbs?

                              No, afraid not.

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                              • Reid CooperR
                                Reid Cooper
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                                I do not believe that turning off the virtualization capability of the processor via the BIOS will change the performance of the processor. My understanding of that ability to lock that down is simply that it is a security feature or a control feature, not a performance one.

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                                • creaytC
                                  creayt @Reid Cooper
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                                  @Reid-Cooper said:

                                  I do not believe that turning off the virtualization capability of the processor via the BIOS will change the performance of the processor. My understanding of that ability to lock that down is simply that it is a security feature or a control feature, not a performance one.

                                  That's helpful, thanks. I guess I'll leave it on.

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