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      technobabble @RoguePacket
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      @RoguePacket said:

      @technobabble

      The info is odd. Helps better define "browser issues". In this case it is more clearly seen as architectural decisions made earlier in the software development process.

      Meanwhile, "Why can they all just get along?"
      =:-o

      Cuz everyone wants to show off their new shiny toys and ideas first. HOWEVER I will say that IE is the worst offender. It's like they have never seen the W3C information.

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        RoguePacket @technobabble
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        @technobabble

        Wonder if that was more a Ballmer thing (the guy of the "I will f@cking destroy those guys" fame)

        Considering Netscape wasn't good enough so they made IE
        Java wasn't good enough, so j#
        C/C++ wasn't good enough, so C#
        Flash wasn't good enough, so Silverlight

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          scottalanmiller @technobabble
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          @technobabble said:

          Cuz everyone wants to show off their new shiny toys and ideas first. HOWEVER I will say that IE is the worst offender. It's like they have never seen the W3C information.

          Well they actively didn't want to follow the W3C, at least not originally, because it didn't fit their vision. That is changing now as their vision failed, but that was the original intent.

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            scottalanmiller @RoguePacket
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            @RoguePacket said:

            @technobabble

            Wonder if that was more a Ballmer thing (the guy of the "I will f@cking destroy those guys" fame)

            Considering Netscape wasn't good enough so they made IE
            Java wasn't good enough, so j#
            C/C++ wasn't good enough, so C#
            Flash wasn't good enough, so Silverlight

            Not that they weren't good enough, they just weren't proprietary. It was all an attempt to move people to Microsoft platforms.

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              scottalanmiller
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              Can't forget... they didn't want to use JavaScipt so they made JScript.

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                technobabble
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                Too true and although there are many MS things along the way I have liked, most of what you mentioned was wasted time on programming much like Office Accounting. MS giveth and MS taketh away. Look for my upcoming RANTs on MS OneNote and Outlook 365.

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  J++ was the original replacement to Java. It was just a really crappy version of Java. I had a Visual J++ kit once up on a time.

                  J++ was replaced by J# in 2004 which kept the Java syntax but switched from Java VM underneath to the .NET system. Making it "easy" for Java people to move over to the .NET world.

                  But that too was discontinued in 2006 as C# itself was always a Java replacement, not targeted at C/C++ but at Java. Java is a C derivative in syntax as is C#, so in a way it's all C, sort of, but conceptually Java and .NET are pretty far removed. C# goes after Java though, not C. Microsoft maintains Visual C++ as their C/C++ replacement.

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                    scottalanmiller @technobabble
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                    @technobabble said:

                    Look for my upcoming RANTs on MS OneNote and Outlook 365.

                    Office 365?

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                      technobabble
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                      LOL...I should have said the Office 365 Outlook browser web app.

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                        scottalanmiller @technobabble
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                        @technobabble said:

                        LOL...I should have said the Office 365 Outlook browser web app.

                        Oh, that's just normal OWA.

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                          technobabble
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                          But it opens different than straight OWA.

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                            scottalanmiller @technobabble
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                            @technobabble said:

                            But it opens different than straight OWA.

                            In what way? Are you comparing it to the latest OWA from Exchange 2013?

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                              technobabble
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                              Ah...that might explain your comment. About 4 months ago one of my clients OWA was from Comcast and it didn't look the same, so I presume they weren't using 2013 Exchange.

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                                scottalanmiller @technobabble
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                                @technobabble said:

                                Ah...that might explain your comment. About 4 months ago one of my clients OWA was from Comcast and it didn't look the same, so I presume they weren't using 2013 Exchange.

                                OWA 2013 is definitely much different than any of the OWAs in 2010.

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