There Is No Cloud
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And ^that is how I describe it to non technical people
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@nadnerB said:
And ^that is how I describe it to non technical people
This is how I describe it to technical people.
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Yeah no one really gets it.
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There is a Matrix reference there...
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Hahahahaha. This made me laugh aloud.
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@Minion-Queen said:
Yeah no one really gets it.
Don't they? Unless you're going to pull out of one of those stats that they often print in the media over here that says something like "80% of Americans actually think their data is stored in the sky", I'm pretty sure most people get the fact that the cloud just refers to their data being stored in some datacentre somewhere.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Yeah no one really gets it.
Don't they? Unless you're going to pull out of one of those stats that they often print in the media over here that says something like "80% of Americans actually think their data is stored in the sky", I'm pretty sure most people get the fact that the cloud just refers to their data being stored in some datacentre somewhere.
Having talked to a lot of IT pros on SW and to business people, my anecdotal survey says that this isn't even true amongst IT pros, let alone common folks. People REALLY do seem to believe that cloud means that "it can't fail", "it has lots of redundancy", "it does X or Y special thing." I get people with a lot of IT time under their belts not just believing that, but arguing that they are correct, on a regular basis.
From what I've seen personally, for average people, that they think that it is just their data on someone else's computer is not just the minority but a very tiny one.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Carnival-Boy said:
@Minion-Queen said:
Yeah no one really gets it.
Don't they? Unless you're going to pull out of one of those stats that they often print in the media over here that says something like "80% of Americans actually think their data is stored in the sky", I'm pretty sure most people get the fact that the cloud just refers to their data being stored in some datacentre somewhere.
Having talked to a lot of IT pros on SW and to business people, my anecdotal survey says that this isn't even true amongst IT pros, let alone common folks. People REALLY do seem to believe that cloud means that "it can't fail", "it has lots of redundancy", "it does X or Y special thing." I get people with a lot of IT time under their belts not just believing that, but arguing that they are correct, on a regular basis.
From what I've seen personally, for average people, that they think that it is just their data on someone else's computer is not just the minority but a very tiny one.
I'd agree with Scott's sentiment here. @Carnival-Boy, it would be interesting to hear what your non IT co-workers consider the cloud.
I think I will take an informal survey today if for no other reason than a chuckle.
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Where I think there is the most confusion is in the differences between PaaS, IaaS and SaaS.
Not helped by the fact that they are some of the ugliest and cumbersome acronyms ever invented. When people talk about "the cloud" I guess that they are generally talking about SaaS.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Where I think there is the most confusion is in the differences between PaaS, IaaS and SaaS.
Not helped by the fact that they are some of the ugliest and cumbersome acronyms ever invented. When people talk about "the cloud" I guess that they are generally talking about SaaS.
And then to further muddy the waters, there's "private cloud", "public cloud", and "hybrid cloud"...
I am a firm believer in PCMCIA... People can't memorize computer industry acronyms...
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Where I think there is the most confusion is in the differences between PaaS, IaaS and SaaS.
Not helped by the fact that they are some of the ugliest and cumbersome acronyms ever invented. When people talk about "the cloud" I guess that they are generally talking about SaaS.
Do you expect non IT personal to know what these things are?
Heck I don't even expect most IT personal to know what these are, and I don't think I could give you an accurate explanation of the differences.
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Seems appropriate...
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Not helped by the fact that they are some of the ugliest and cumbersome acronyms ever invented. When people talk about "the cloud" I guess that they are generally talking about SaaS.
I thought most people referred to storage that was not SaaS, just hosted storage. ownCloud for example. DropBox.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Where I think there is the most confusion is in the differences between PaaS, IaaS and SaaS.
Not helped by the fact that they are some of the ugliest and cumbersome acronyms ever invented. When people talk about "the cloud" I guess that they are generally talking about SaaS.
If on SW you see say they need "cloud" with no other details, I've found it to always be the last thing you'd actually consider to be cloud-like, storage.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Where I think there is the most confusion is in the differences between PaaS, IaaS and SaaS.
I don't believe so. Those are terms around "cloud computing" not around "the cloud." 99% of people never get far enough to consider XaaS at all.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I thought most people referred to storage that was not SaaS, just hosted storage. ownCloud for example. DropBox.
DropBox is SaaS. It's far more than just storage. Amazon S3 is more like a pure storage solution.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
DropBox is SaaS. It's far more than just storage. Amazon S3 is more like a pure storage solution.
Only partially. Because DropBox installs on your desktop it is also a traditional client - server architecture. It's not pure SaaS. It's a hybrid.
Amazon S3 is just storage, but at least it is purely "aaS". Storage as a Server, which is the correct term in a way, but no one uses that no matter how much it is needed.
DropBox may or may not be cloud too. We know it is hosted (the cloud) but we don't know if it is running on a cloud (a cloud). Likely it is not. Or at least was not. By now, who knows.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Where I think there is the most confusion is in the differences between PaaS, IaaS and SaaS.
We used to use the acronym CaaS with big red V. We always rocked the CaaS box. Rocked the CaaS box.
