New CPAP Could Revolutionize.... CPAPs!!
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Hmmmm if only I knew someone that might be interested in these.........
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That's pretty cool.
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Interesting... curious as to how it works.. and since I'm suppose to have one,.. what kind of pricing they will really have.
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Normally CPAPs at retail are about $450 to $1400.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Normally CPAPs at retail are about $450 to $1400.
yes and my question is - WHY?
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Looks like this isn't going to be that cheap either, because of the battery, it's a wear it once and toss it situation currently.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Normally CPAPs at retail are about $450 to $1400.
yes and my question is - WHY?
Medical equipment. American corruption.
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@Dashrender said:
Looks like this isn't going to be that cheap either, because of the battery, it's a wear it once and toss it situation currently.
Oh I didn't see that. That's pretty worthless. It's not rechargeable?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Looks like this isn't going to be that cheap either, because of the battery, it's a wear it once and toss it situation currently.
Oh I didn't see that. That's pretty worthless. It's not rechargeable?
Nope, they claim that lithium or other rechargeable batteries that would last for 8 hours are too heavy.
Though the Kodak stamping machine can make something like 80K micro pumps a minute, so the price on this could be pretty cheap - if they can get it to a $1/day it is probably still worthwhile. Though I'm sure they'll look at things like espresso and cigarette users and say, well those people are willing to spend at least $5/day on that.. so we could/should do the same.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
Looks like this isn't going to be that cheap either, because of the battery, it's a wear it once and toss it situation currently.
Oh I didn't see that. That's pretty worthless. It's not rechargeable?
Nope, they claim that lithium or other rechargeable batteries that would last for 8 hours are too heavy.
Though the Kodak stamping machine can make something like 80K micro pumps a minute, so the price on this could be pretty cheap - if they can get it to a $1/day it is probably still worthwhile. Though I'm sure they'll look at things like espresso and cigarette users and say, well those people are willing to spend at least $5/day on that.. so we could/should do the same.
Aren't those luxury items though? This is for some people a medical necessity... so they are going to gouge as much as they can.
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Why not make this not require battery power and make it that much better? Battery optional, sure. But battery required? Would not take much to power it some other way.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Why not make this not require battery power and make it that much better? Battery optional, sure. But battery required? Would not take much to power it some other way.
I was thinking that too. If it can be powered by what amounts to a watch battery why not just wire it to an outlet?
Do CPAP machines force you to sleep in a specific fashion?
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@coliver said:
Do CPAP machines force you to sleep in a specific fashion?
Through physical necessity, yes.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
Do CPAP machines force you to sleep in a specific fashion?
Through physical necessity, yes.
Exactly - because of wires, if you toss and turn you're going to rip something out of somewhere. That was the main thing they were trying to get away from - no more cords, tubes, wires, etc... completely stand alone.
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Yes, the tubes are the worst. Plus all the head gear. You get used to it and it is only so big of a deal. But this could be awesome.
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And if these are disposable, it ruins much of the value. I want one because I travel and traveling with a huge CPAP is horrible. It is SO much to deal with in an airport. It's an extra piece of delicate luggage that I have to lug absolutely everywhere, all the time. I have to always have one in the car. I can never be spontaneous because I must always have one with me to be able to travel or sleep away from home.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
Do CPAP machines force you to sleep in a specific fashion?
Through physical necessity, yes.
Exactly - because of wires, if you toss and turn you're going to rip something out of somewhere. That was the main thing they were trying to get away from - no more cords, tubes, wires, etc... completely stand alone.
My future Father-in-law uses a CPAP machine, it is fairly large and I can see where the tubes would be an issue. The other thing I noticed is that they are fairly loud, which I can't imagine does much for spouses or significant others.
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@scottalanmiller said:
And if these are disposable, it ruins much of the value. I want one because I travel and traveling with a huge CPAP is horrible. It is SO much to deal with in an airport. It's an extra piece of delicate luggage that I have to lug absolutely everywhere, all the time. I have to always have one in the car. I can never be spontaneous because I must always have one with me to be able to travel or sleep away from home.
In this case why would disposable lose value? Because you would have to carry more then one, or that it wouldn't be convenient to have to plan out the number of days you are going to be away and then buy n+1 devices to cover those days, thus losing the ability to be spontaneous?
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@coliver said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@coliver said:
Do CPAP machines force you to sleep in a specific fashion?
Through physical necessity, yes.
Exactly - because of wires, if you toss and turn you're going to rip something out of somewhere. That was the main thing they were trying to get away from - no more cords, tubes, wires, etc... completely stand alone.
My future Father-in-law uses a CPAP machine, it is fairly large and I can see where the tubes would be an issue. The other thing I noticed is that they are fairly loud, which I can't imagine does much for spouses or significant others.
Should not be very loud. If it is loud it is likely leaking. I've used one for a full decade now. They have some white noise, it is actually pretty nice.
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@coliver said:
@scottalanmiller said:
And if these are disposable, it ruins much of the value. I want one because I travel and traveling with a huge CPAP is horrible. It is SO much to deal with in an airport. It's an extra piece of delicate luggage that I have to lug absolutely everywhere, all the time. I have to always have one in the car. I can never be spontaneous because I must always have one with me to be able to travel or sleep away from home.
In this case why would disposable lose value? Because you would have to carry more then one, or that it wouldn't be convenient to have to plan out the number of days you are going to be away and then buy n+1 devices to cover those days, thus losing the ability to be spontaneous?
Because I was hoping to only carry one, not months worth of them at all times. For example, when I travel to London for a three day show I would probably need to carry ten or more, to account for emergencies like bad weather keeping me in a location longer. Or if plans change and I need to travel elsewhere, I might need to carry twenty. That's a lot.
And when I "really" travel, like to Europe, I would need to carry a year's supply or more because I don't know when I am returning "home" for really long periods of time. Like when we leave to go to South American ~ January 1st next year, we literally have no idea if and when we are returning to the US.
