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    • RamblingBipedR
      RamblingBiped
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      @StrongBad And that is another nice aspect of this program; I don't have the traditional course structure. If I am proficient in the material I can pretty much go strait to the exams and test out with no penalty whatsoever. It is all done at my own pace completely independent of a class. I'll definitely take a look at the book, I've got a month before my first class starts.

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        tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @tonyshowoff said:

        @MattSpeller said:

        Good grief why. I think the only people who enjoy using it are suffering from Stockholm syndrome.

        LOL! I really did laugh out loud. That's true, or they're trying to impress other people, or they're literally insane.

        It's because you are looking at it as a programmer and not as a systems admin. From an SA perspective, vi is very important. I've not had a job in 21 years that didn't require me to know vi cold the moment I was in the door.

        I remember every new SGI and Sun machine I got, SunOS, Solaris, and IRIX only came with vi, so I understand the pain. Plus I do manage a lot of servers too you know, I am a renaissance man. In system administration, vi is crappy but you gotta know the basics, it's like using a plunger, nobody wants to use it, but sometimes you have no choice.

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        • scottalanmillerS
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          I'm going to ....

          alias plunger="vi"
          
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          • RamblingBipedR
            RamblingBiped @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller And that made ME laugh out loud...

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Do you know anything about what kind of programming you are going to want to do after you graduate? What is the programming goal going to be?

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              • tonyshowoffT
                tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                Do you know anything about what kind of programming you are going to want to do after you graduate? What is the programming goal going to be?

                God willing it's a cushy enterprise job, and I mean a real enterprise, not like four jackasses sitting in a subletted room some place churning out garbage for Rentacoder

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                • RamblingBipedR
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                  @scottalanmiller Initially it will probably be geared toward system administration. However, I am really interested in learning to build applications using frameworks like Rails and Django. I've got the potential to use just about everything discussed thus far with future projects that could happen here. We do a lot of prototype hardware/software developments for start-ups and engineering departments of larger companies.

                  Really that is one of the questions I hope to answer as I get more hands on experience moving forward.

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                  • tonyshowoffT
                    tonyshowoff @RamblingBiped
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                    @RamblingBiped Frameworks aren't really fun projects, they're something you make in order to solve an issue with another project you're working on. Even Rails was invented so that 37signals could better make their stuff, not for the purpose of simply making Rails.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
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                      Over 100 views and over 50 posts on an after hours posting. Pretty impressive 🙂

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                        A Former User @tonyshowoff
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                        @tonyshowoff said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Do you know anything about what kind of programming you are going to want to do after you graduate? What is the programming goal going to be?

                        God willing it's a cushy enterprise job, and I mean a real enterprise, not like four jackasses sitting in a subletted room some place churning out garbage for Rentacoder

                        Oh, so you were talking about Nathan Latka's Enterprise of programers with Lujure and https://heyo.com/. They used to operate in a apartment over a bar, not sure if they still do.

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                        • tonyshowoffT
                          tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Over 100 views and over 50 posts on an after hours posting. Pretty impressive 🙂

                          You and I both tear up threads, any thread we're on is going to explode with posts, even if it's just one of us.

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                            tonyshowoff @A Former User
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                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            @tonyshowoff said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Do you know anything about what kind of programming you are going to want to do after you graduate? What is the programming goal going to be?

                            God willing it's a cushy enterprise job, and I mean a real enterprise, not like four jackasses sitting in a subletted room some place churning out garbage for Rentacoder

                            Oh, so you were talking about Nathan Latka's Enterprise of programers with Lujure and https://heyo.com/. They used to operate in a apartment over a bar, not sure if they still do.

                            I won't name names or anything. I will say that a company named after Ed McMahon's popular catch phrase is ill thought out.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
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                              I would not be surprised if PluralSight didn't have some good training videos too.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                And CodeAcademy has some free stuff. Doesn't teach you a lot, but doesn't hurt either, IMHO.

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                                • RamblingBipedR
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                                  Any open source projects that might be beneficial to look in on and eventually contribute to?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @RamblingBiped
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                                    @RamblingBiped said:

                                    Any open source projects that might be beneficial to look in on and eventually contribute to?

                                    Thousands. But that is generally a bit more of an advanced thing as you have to not only learn to program but make changes to other people's code which is way harder than making your own. You have to learn a lot and a lot of open source is in C.

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                                    • RamblingBipedR
                                      RamblingBiped @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller Yeah, I've done a lot of the codecademy stuff. Finished their Python modules, started the Ruby, and have started going through some of the web dev stuff as a refresher on HTML5/CSS3.

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                                      • tonyshowoffT
                                        tonyshowoff @RamblingBiped
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                                        @RamblingBiped Depends on the language, but most open source projects are pretty crappy, even popular ones. Once you have a focus of language, then we can better answer that. If you're set on Java, I'd suggest maybe OpenBravo or exo or whatever it is. I can't recall, but I have seen the source trees of those and they weren't too awful.

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                                        • lanceL
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                                          I started developing in Javascript. I am really liking node.js and everything that goes along with it.

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                                          • lanceL
                                            lance
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                                            railsforzombies.org is a awesome place to start when you want to learn the rails part of it, when learning RoR

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