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    Xenserver 6.5 Thin Provisioning Issue

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    • coliverC
      coliver
      last edited by

      If I recall correctly, and I may not, thin provisioning is a bit different in XenServer. Basically it thin provisions the storage array instead of the VM files. You create the size VM Disk that you want and it will only use the actual storage on the backend.

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      • LakshmanaL
        Lakshmana @coliver
        last edited by

        @coliver It seems to be like that only when i have used that

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said:

          If I recall correctly, and I may not, thin provisioning is a bit different in XenServer. Basically it thin provisions the storage array instead of the VM files. You create the size VM Disk that you want and it will only use the actual storage on the backend.

          Yes, I believe that that is correct. You've already thin provisioned everything. Otherwise you would not select thin provisioning at install time but instead when you deploy the individual VM. It doesn't make any sense to have to select it twice, what would the first time imply, if that were the case?

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          • coliverC
            coliver @Lakshmana
            last edited by coliver

            @Lakshmana It is completely different then how VMWare and Hyper-V do it on their GUI, although the process is basically the same. Kind of takes the guess work out of the process since you no longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or not.

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            • ?
              A Former User
              last edited by

              XenServer it's all or none. Vmware or Hyper-V it's on a per VM Virtual Disk level. Rarely is there a case not to use thin provisioning.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                And the benefits of mixing the two on the same storage device, which do exist, are much lower than having the whole thing be thin.

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                • LakshmanaL
                  Lakshmana @coliver
                  last edited by Lakshmana

                  @coliver said:

                  o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

                  One doubt why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                    last edited by

                    @Lakshmana said:

                    @coliver said:

                    o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

                    One why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

                    It's not provided anymore. Once you select it at install time, you don't need to select it again.

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                    • ?
                      A Former User @Lakshmana
                      last edited by A Former User

                      @Lakshmana It only uses space that is really used. It does not use the whole space you assign it. It's another way of over committing resources which that's the major uses of Virtualization.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @Lakshmana
                        last edited by

                        @Lakshmana said:

                        @coliver said:

                        o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

                        One doubt why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

                        You don't have to worry about it now. No need to doubt the software, it is by default thin provisioned now that you've enabled it during installation.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said:

                          @Lakshmana said:

                          @coliver said:

                          o longer have to choose if something is thin-provisioned or no

                          One doubt why thin provisioning option is provided here.This is my doubt?

                          You don't have to worry about it now. No need to doubt the software, it is by default thin provisioned now that you've enabled it during installation.

                          Exactly, you have already chosen thin provisioning. You do not see the option again because you have already chosen it. So all is well.

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                          • LakshmanaL
                            Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller
                            How to confirm the thin provision option is enabled after the installation

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                              last edited by

                              @Lakshmana said:

                              @scottalanmiller
                              How to confirm the thin provision option is enabled after the installation

                              You said that you did it. Are you doubting your memory?

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @Lakshmana
                                last edited by

                                @Lakshmana said:

                                @scottalanmiller
                                How to confirm the thin provision option is enabled after the installation

                                One of the ways you can do it (although it may be restricted on XenServer) is to create a virtual hard disk bigger then the space available. If it allows you to then you have thin provisioning enabled... if it fails then you don't. Of course this could cause a string of other, more serious issues.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  What does this command show?

                                  xe vbd-list

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                                  • LakshmanaL
                                    Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said:

                                    ows you to then you have thin provisioning enabled... if it fails then you don't. Of course this could cause a string of other, more serious issues.

                                    [root@xenserver3 ~]# xe vbd-list
                                    uuid ( RO) : 03e3e447-be1c-826b-1f36-0fcd4548fd3b
                                    vm-uuid ( RO): 9e6f55b3-dad4-27f6-1be6-7039f6c70bef
                                    vm-name-label ( RO): Other install media (1)
                                    vdi-uuid ( RO): 6d457475-de17-41f4-a8cf-41243f972e75
                                    empty ( RO): false
                                    device ( RO): xvdd

                                    uuid ( RO) : 56e0ecfd-d8ba-140a-1ca5-e665edc6a2e9
                                    vm-uuid ( RO): 4de3a235-9339-e37d-8000-6754ccc1c02d
                                    vm-name-label ( RO): Windows 7 (32-bit) (2)
                                    vdi-uuid ( RO): 6d457475-de17-41f4-a8cf-41243f972e75
                                    empty ( RO): false
                                    device ( RO):

                                    uuid ( RO) : 51198e3f-edbe-18d2-ec80-1b7ca33744b3
                                    vm-uuid ( RO): a8c3d7fe-2179-4eab-e609-8c80cfe60096
                                    vm-name-label ( RO): Windows 7 (32-bit) (1)
                                    vdi-uuid ( RO): 6d457475-de17-41f4-a8cf-41243f972e75
                                    empty ( RO): false
                                    device ( RO): xvdd

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      Shoot, I thought that that would say explicitly that they were thin provisioned.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        This is not something the XS has well documented. They mostly expect you to just remember.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          What about this xe sr-list

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                                          • LakshmanaL
                                            Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            e XS has well documented. They mostly expect you to just remember.

                                            In my client the person does not know about thin provisioning.Then how he will find now.I also working towards it now?

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