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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @dafyre
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      @dafyre said:

      @Dashrender This is why I keep my computer sounds on mute. That, and for me to hear it, I'd have to turn it up loud enough everybody on my floor could hear it.

      Not really the point! it's one thing to have a static ad, I can totally handle that, but auto play ads - they have to stop!

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender True. If it had been one of those Popup ads that played sound, I would have close it out. But as it were, i didn't hear anything, lol.

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        • handsofqwertyH
          handsofqwerty @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @handsofqwerty said:

          Slavery was abolished over 100 years ago in the US, except for two things, joining the military and farming. My father always said farming, especially a dairy farm, is basically legal slavery. And when you join the military, you are not a person, but property of the government to be used as they see fit.

          The important thing about the military is that it is voluntary, unlike traditional slavery.

          Yeah, I know. More like indentured servitude than slavery.

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          • IRJI
            IRJ @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            @IRJ said:

            I would assume they can be worn off base, but we will have to see

            My guess is no, but if so, then the article is pretty silly.

            I am not sure why they wouldn't be allowed off base. There is no control of your smartphone off base. In reality a smart watch can do nothing a smart phone can't do.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IRJ
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              @IRJ said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @IRJ said:

              I would assume they can be worn off base, but we will have to see

              My guess is no, but if so, then the article is pretty silly.

              I am not sure why they wouldn't be allowed off base. There is no control of your smartphone off base. In reality a smart watch can do nothing a smart phone can't do.

              Why would there be an article then? Seems pretty silly.

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              • ?
                A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                Why would there be an article then? Seems pretty silly.

                I think what you call off base would matter. You live in a house on base (or barracks if single), so even at home you couldn't ware it.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  I'm betting the wearing of the watch is limited to while on duty specifically. For example, the not walking while talking on a cell phone would only apply while either on base (military installation) or in uniform regardless of location.

                  But if you are off-base walk and talk all you want.
                  The same would probably go for the watch.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Why would there be an article then? Seems pretty silly.

                    I think what you call off base would matter. You live in a house on base (or barracks if single), so even at home you couldn't ware it.

                    That is awfully annoying. But the price you pay for living on base, I assume. Isn't that housing free?

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                    • ?
                      A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      That is awfully annoying. But the price you pay for living on base, I assume. Isn't that housing free?

                      Kinda. they get housing allowance to pay for it.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        and any hand-held unit must never (ever) encumber a soldier from giving a snappy salute to a superior officer.

                        Good thing the military knows that saluting, and not protecting civilians, is what matters in these decisions.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Whens the last time the US was able to win a war without using a nuclear weapon?

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Whens the last time the US was able to win a war without using a nuclear weapon?

                            While we all agree Vietnam was not a win, you don't consider either dessert storm a win?

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              Whens the last time the US was able to win a war without using a nuclear weapon?

                              While we all agree Vietnam was not a win, you don't consider either dessert storm a win?

                              War in the Middle East is un- winnable.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Whens the last time the US was able to win a war without using a nuclear weapon?

                                While we all agree Vietnam was not a win, you don't consider either dessert storm a win?

                                I don't consider Desert Storm a win since we accomplished effectively nothing and we are still there (yes, technically with a short break.) And since the other side famously considered it a win for them at best it was a draw, but in reality, it was a minor loss.

                                Now not only have we lost in Iraq for a second time (highlighting how badly we lost the first time) but now even the little bit that was left is falling apart.

                                Vietnam was a dramatic loss. Korea was a draw, sort of, but overall on the negative side of a loss. If you consider WW1 to be a separate conflict from WW2 (which is a stretch) then WW1 we managed to win with the assistance of a ton of other countries. That we chose the winning side of a distant conflict where we had the luxury of joining only the side that we felt would win and only after observing the conflict for a while is pretty weak as wins go.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @IRJ
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                                  @IRJ said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  Whens the last time the US was able to win a war without using a nuclear weapon?

                                  While we all agree Vietnam was not a win, you don't consider either dessert storm a win?

                                  War in the Middle East is un- winnable.

                                  That would depend on your stated goal I guess.

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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @IRJ said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Whens the last time the US was able to win a war without using a nuclear weapon?

                                    While we all agree Vietnam was not a win, you don't consider either dessert storm a win?

                                    War in the Middle East is un- winnable.

                                    That would depend on your stated goal I guess.

                                    What goal is winnable in the Middle East?

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @IRJ
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                                      @IRJ said:

                                      What goal is winnable in the Middle East?

                                      Seems like it's to force democracy on people who don't want it. meanwhile the US government is becoming more socialist.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @IRJ
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                                        @IRJ said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @IRJ said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Whens the last time the US was able to win a war without using a nuclear weapon?

                                        While we all agree Vietnam was not a win, you don't consider either dessert storm a win?

                                        War in the Middle East is un- winnable.

                                        That would depend on your stated goal I guess.

                                        What goal is winnable in the Middle East?

                                        A goal of removing Sadam from power - that was achieved.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          A goal of removing Sadam from power - that was achieved.

                                          Not the first time. Sadam is the one who declared victory after the first one.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                                            Seems like it's to force democracy on people who don't want it.

                                            Which, by definition, means it is not democracy.

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