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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller @Dashrender
      last edited by MattSpeller

      @Dashrender I.... I can't even think of a good meme to show my horror at that statement

      I mean to each their own and all, but.... shudder

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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        @MattSpeller said:

        @Dashrender said:

        OWA?

        I feel dirty by association for that recommendation. One of my most hated things ever is outlook web access.

        That's all that I use. While not very good, I find it better than Outlook. If you use Exchange, it's the best solution I've seen.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @MattSpeller
          last edited by

          @MattSpeller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          OWA?

          I feel dirty by association for that recommendation. One of my most hated things ever is outlook web access.

          I actually prefer OWA to Outlook... Although I really... really hate Outlook.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said:

            @MattSpeller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            OWA?

            I feel dirty by association for that recommendation. One of my most hated things ever is outlook web access.

            I actually prefer OWA to Outlook... Although I really... really hate Outlook.

            That pretty much sums it up. Two bad options, but one is better than the other.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller @coliver
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              @coliver @scottalanmiller @Dashrender

              I share all your hate for outlook, but ugh, OWA is next level worse.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                last edited by

                @MattSpeller said:

                @coliver @scottalanmiller @Dashrender

                I share all your hate for outlook, but ugh, OWA is next level worse.

                Have you used it since 2013?

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @MattSpeller
                  last edited by

                  @MattSpeller said:

                  @coliver @scottalanmiller @Dashrender

                  I share all your hate for outlook, but ugh, OWA is next level worse.

                  The one that comes with O365 is surprisingly good... although I would choose almost any email interface (except Outlook) over it.

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                  • MattSpellerM
                    MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller Yes, recently. I get that it breaks less frequently and does less odd stuff (not by much). I've just invested so many hours of my life fixing outlook that I know how to do it quickly and easily. Maybe I'm a tad masochistic or it's Stockholm syndrome

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                      last edited by

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @scottalanmiller Yes, recently. I get that it breaks less frequently and does less odd stuff (not by much). I've just invested so many hours of my life fixing outlook that I know how to do it quickly and easily. Maybe I'm a tad masochistic or it's Stockholm syndrome

                      So you recognize that it is better.... but are shocked that we prefer it? 😉

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller maybe I was too generous below 😛

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          I find Outlook proper to be unbearable. So many problems. And unless you are using plugins to expand it, ugh what a horrible idea, it doesn't seem to add any value over the web interface. But lots of downsides

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            If you are spending lots of time offline, sure, the fat Outlook client makes sense.

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                            • Rob DunnR
                              Rob Dunn
                              last edited by Rob Dunn

                              You might be able to work some magic with Davmail Gateway and Thunderbird: http://davmail.sourceforge.net/index.html

                              I've used this before and it does work, but it's another moving part - - Outlook is obviously preferable since it just works with little to no configuration.

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                              • Rob DunnR
                                Rob Dunn @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by Rob Dunn

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                I find Outlook proper to be unbearable. So many problems. And unless you are using plugins to expand it, ugh what a horrible idea, it doesn't seem to add any value over the web interface. But lots of downsides

                                Calendaring is pretty much useless in a collaborative environment, though. That's my biggest gripe with the web interface. If they could get that turned around, I would use that instead in a heartbeat. Also, if you're trying to work with rules and other customizations in the Inbox, OWA doesn't handle that very well.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Rob Dunn
                                  last edited by

                                  @Rob-Dunn maybe my rules are just really basic or something, but they seem to work better in OWA than in Outlook, or at least on parity.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    I'm really trying to figure out what you all hate about Outlook so much, or OWA for that matter?

                                    Prehaps I'm entirely to simple of a user to see the differences.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      I'm really trying to figure out what you all hate about Outlook so much, or OWA for that matter?

                                      Prehaps I'm entirely to simple of a user to see the differences.

                                      Slow, complicated, buggy. Has nothing to do with being a power user. I'm a pretty simple user but neither Outlook nor OWA has been on par with other web interfaces that I have used in a decade.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        I'm really trying to figure out what you all hate about Outlook so much, or OWA for that matter?

                                        Prehaps I'm entirely to simple of a user to see the differences.

                                        Outlook is slow, failure prone, and just all around a bad UX. Granted I like the 2013 version more then the previous ones but still...

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                                        • Rob DunnR
                                          Rob Dunn @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          I dunno - the only issues I've ever had with Outlook has been bad or misconfigured plugins, and even that doesn't happen very often. I've had nothing but good experiences with it as an app. As far as how chatty Outlook/Exchange is, that's a different story, but nevertheless, I've hardly had any issues with it myself, or with any of my clients/co-workers.

                                          If Exchange works, Outlook always seems to work IME.

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                                          • Rob DunnR
                                            Rob Dunn @Rob Dunn
                                            last edited by

                                            By the way, that eM client is actually pretty nice! I just installed it on my home PC (IMAP access) for Google and Outlook.com addresses. It picked up all my Thunderbird configurations, calendars, address books, etc. with hardly any work.

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