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    Laptop Pricing - A small rant.

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    • IRJI
      IRJ @thanksajdotcom
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      @thanksajdotcom said:

      @IRJ said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @IRJ said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      Plus won't watches likely be heavily abused compared to, say, a laptop?

      I am sure the lease will be written unfavorably for the customer. People are desperate to get ahold of the watches. People accepting insane terms would not surprise me.

      It can only be so extreme before people, even dumb people, shell out $350 to just buy one. No matter what, they need a LOT of watches for this to work.

      You are underestimating the fanboys and the stupidity of the people.

      Especially for Apple.

      I didn't say that. There are stupid android people too.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IRJ
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        @IRJ said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @IRJ said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        Plus won't watches likely be heavily abused compared to, say, a laptop?

        I am sure the lease will be written unfavorably for the customer. People are desperate to get ahold of the watches. People accepting insane terms would not surprise me.

        It can only be so extreme before people, even dumb people, shell out $350 to just buy one. No matter what, they need a LOT of watches for this to work.

        You are underestimating the fanboys and the stupidity of the people.

        But fanboys will just shell out the $350. I admit the stupidity of people is stupefying but I feel like this is a case where the cost just isn't high enough and the value of "owning" is too high and too obtainable

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        • thanksajdotcomT
          thanksajdotcom @IRJ
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          @IRJ said:

          @thanksajdotcom said:

          @IRJ said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @IRJ said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Plus won't watches likely be heavily abused compared to, say, a laptop?

          I am sure the lease will be written unfavorably for the customer. People are desperate to get ahold of the watches. People accepting insane terms would not surprise me.

          It can only be so extreme before people, even dumb people, shell out $350 to just buy one. No matter what, they need a LOT of watches for this to work.

          You are underestimating the fanboys and the stupidity of the people.

          Especially for Apple.

          I didn't say that. There are stupid android people too.

          Oh I totally agree. But when the newest Galaxy phone comes out, you don't see people literally camping outside the $carrier store. However, new iPhone release? It's tent city outside the Apple store.

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          • IRJI
            IRJ @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @IRJ said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @IRJ said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            Plus won't watches likely be heavily abused compared to, say, a laptop?

            I am sure the lease will be written unfavorably for the customer. People are desperate to get ahold of the watches. People accepting insane terms would not surprise me.

            It can only be so extreme before people, even dumb people, shell out $350 to just buy one. No matter what, they need a LOT of watches for this to work.

            You are underestimating the fanboys and the stupidity of the people.

            But fanboys will just shell out the $350. I admit the stupidity of people is stupefying but I feel like this is a case where the cost just isn't high enough and the value of "owning" is too high and too obtainable

            That is IF they can get the watch.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IRJ
              last edited by

              @IRJ said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @IRJ said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @IRJ said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              Plus won't watches likely be heavily abused compared to, say, a laptop?

              I am sure the lease will be written unfavorably for the customer. People are desperate to get ahold of the watches. People accepting insane terms would not surprise me.

              It can only be so extreme before people, even dumb people, shell out $350 to just buy one. No matter what, they need a LOT of watches for this to work.

              You are underestimating the fanboys and the stupidity of the people.

              But fanboys will just shell out the $350. I admit the stupidity of people is stupefying but I feel like this is a case where the cost just isn't high enough and the value of "owning" is too high and too obtainable

              That is IF they can get the watch.

              Same issue for the watch leasers, they need to be able to get tens of thousands of them to make enough to justify it. By the time that they can get it, getting the watch will be easy for normal consumers. Yeah, you can't get them on day one, but the lease people can't either. Once the initial rush is over, they will be easy to get at your local store. Use a credit card and you take care of most of the benefits of leasing such a small item.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Three months with the Apple MacBook and already noticed that the case is dented. Even though I baby the thing. This is the most fragile computer I've ever experienced.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller I'm sure you have a generous budget for hardware, did you go with Mac to learn it and get more cross platform experience? Can't imagine why you'd take one over a Lenovo X1 or a nice custom Sager etc.

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                  • StrongBadS
                    StrongBad @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Three months with the Apple MacBook and already noticed that the case is dented. Even though I baby the thing. This is the most fragile computer I've ever experienced.

                    Those things are awful. If you so much as touch it, it gets dented or twisted. No strength at all.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                      last edited by

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      @scottalanmiller I'm sure you have a generous budget for hardware, did you go with Mac to learn it and get more cross platform experience? Can't imagine why you'd take one over a Lenovo X1 or a nice custom Sager etc.

                      I have a rather large budget in general 😉

                      Yes, I got it for cross platform experience. However, there is NOTHING that would make me do business with Lenovo. Worst vendor I've ever dealt with. I'd buy Mac in a heartbeat over Lenovo. I'll take whitebox over Lenovo.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        At this point, literally Lenovo is the very last vendor I'd consider. Both due to how unethical they are AND the ridiculously poor quality of their products.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller burn you once and never again ahy? 😉

                          The X1 is worth the money, but I just tried to make one with more than 8GB of ram - no love. Back to Sager/Clevo for me.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
                            last edited by

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            @scottalanmiller burn you once and never again ahy? 😉

                            The X1 is worth the money, but I just tried to make one with more than 8GB of ram - no love. Back to Sager/Clevo for me.

                            If it has Lenovo's name on it, it's not worth a penny to me. Lesson learned. That's a horrible company.

                            Don't know Sager or Clevo. What are those?

                            In the US, HP and Dell are the key players in the laptop and desktop market along with Apple and Lenovo, and then Asus and Acer on another tier. Samsung is a smaller player in some circles. Sony is out there, but I'd never consider them. Pretty much HP and Dell are the big players.

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                            • StrongBadS
                              StrongBad
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                              I think that he means these guys...

                              http://www.sagernotebook.com/home.php

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @StrongBad
                                last edited by MattSpeller

                                @StrongBad Yup!

                                One of the ones currently that I want. Unlocked i7-k, 32gb ram, 2x M2 drives, 2x 2.5" drives, GTX970/980. So much win.

                                http://www.reflexnotebook.ca/sager-np9752-special-clevo-p75xzm-special.html

                                Edit: Why you ask? Because: 15.6" 4K QFHD Samsung Display with Super Glossy Surface (3840x2160)

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Quite.... um.... affordable?

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by MattSpeller

                                    @scottalanmiller Oh absolutely mate, cheap as chips! Practically free.

                                    Edit: Also that site is in $CDN, nicely loaded they're ~$3000USD

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      Yeah, laptops just aren't worth that to me. If my device is going to be that expensive, I want to rethink what I'm doing with it. I suppose if you are a mobile gamer, but outside of that.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @MattSpeller
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                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @scottalanmiller Oh absolutely mate, cheap as chips! Practically free.

                                        I've never been good with sarcasm... especially written but I assume this isn't affordable at all...

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @scottalanmiller Oh absolutely mate, cheap as chips! Practically free.

                                          I've never been good with sarcasm... especially written but I assume this isn't affordable at all...

                                          I can get a nice Chromebook for $299.

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @coliver
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                                            @coliver You would be correct. They can go for as much as a decent used car if you get really silly with the config.

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