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    • ?
      A Former User
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      Hopefully this will not get to controversial...

      I am considering having weight loss surgery, and I was wondering if anyone here has an experience with it? Good or Bad?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Have not tried it. Do you have a type that you are considering or is it too early for that level of detail?

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        • coliverC
          coliver
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          I know a few people who have done this. Are you thinking something like Lap-band? One person has lost 70% of her goal in about 1.5 year. The second person has remained the same, but hasn't gotten the massive weight fluctuations they were having before.

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          • ?
            A Former User @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            Have not tried it. Do you have a type that you are considering or is it too early for that level of detail?

            Thinking about having a Gastric Sleeve - but I am not 100% sure yet. It's a long process, takes about 6 - 9 months before they will operate.

            www.webmd.com/diet/weight-loss-surgery/restrictive-operations-stomach-stapling-or-gastric-banding

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            • coliverC
              coliver @A Former User
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              @Aaron-Studer I know for the two people that had it done, they had to try a strict exercise and diet regiment prior to the surgery. If weight wasn't coming off as was expected they would proceed. It seems like it is the last resort for patients.

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                MattSpeller
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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse
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                  The nurse that saw me last week had it done.... there are some trade offs..

                  Like not being able to eat much...at all....ever....

                  She had to give up sweets like ice cream.. chocolate and a few other things.

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                  • NicN
                    Nic
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                    What have you tried already and what were the results? You want to save the surgery as a very last resort.

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                    • thanksajdotcomT
                      thanksajdotcom
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                      Yeah, this should always be a LAST RESORT. Diet and exercise, extensively and to even extreme degrees, should be tried first.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        @Texkonc and I did MediFast together while in Dallas and had amazing results. I lost 90lbs in 2011. I'd recommend trying them before going the surgery route. Can't hurt, other than the cost. It was healthy, relatively easy and worked really well. Not for everyone, of course, but something to consider.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          My wife did Dr directed weight loss system here in town for a year. She lost 80 lbs in that time. Once she stopped the program, she slowly gained it all back over the next year.

                          The problem with any solution, including surgery, is that you must change your behavior. If you don't you'll end up right back where you started.

                          For example, as long as my wife was accountable to the clinic, etc, she did well - hated every min of it mind you, but it worked. For her that's the only thing she's found that will get her there. She needs that external accountability.

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                          • thanksajdotcomT
                            thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            My wife did Dr directed weight loss system here in town for a year. She lost 80 lbs in that time. Once she stopped the program, she slowly gained it all back over the next year.

                            The problem with any solution, including surgery, is that you must change your behavior. If you don't you'll end up right back where you started.

                            For example, as long as my wife was accountable to the clinic, etc, she did well - hated every min of it mind you, but it worked. For her that's the only thing she's found that will get her there. She needs that external accountability.

                            That's me too.

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ
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                              I have a couple family members that have had it done. Its very good in the short term, but over the long term there can be issues. Try diet and exercise first. I know its hard, but it can be done for most people.

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver
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                                My great-uncle had a metal band surgery when they first started doing these. It helped a lot in controlling his weight. However the band started to deteriorate and sprung, creating a bit of shrapnel and cutting into several organs. He had a ton of surgery to fix the damage caused by the faulty band.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  Diet and exercise. Not even a really hard level of exercise. mostly portion control.

                                  From 350lbs to 176lbs.

                                  2005 out to dinner with friends at GenCon Indy
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                                  2007 at my wedding in Tokyo
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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch
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                                    Don't confuse "diet and exercise" with "going on a diet"

                                    I did not go on a diet. I simply changed my diet to be not huge portions.

                                    I was a bachelor. So I bought packaged things.

                                    Typical:
                                    Breakfast: Quaker oatmeal in a single serving bowl.
                                    Lunch: Ramen in the pre packaged cup thing.
                                    Afternoon Snack: 1 can of pineapples in natural juice. The little cans are two servings. I ate the whole thing.
                                    Dinner: Hamburger/Tuna helper. I made this one night and split it into 3 meals.
                                    No evening snack.

                                    Drinks: Coffee, Green Tea, Water.

                                    On Saturday's I went out to a chinese buffet for lunch with co-workers (I worked Saturdays) but again, don't go crazy.

                                    Exercise:
                                    Morning and Afternoon mandated breaks: I walked up and down the stairwell of our 4 story office.
                                    Lunch Break: I walked for the entire 1 hour. I ate my lunch at my desk prior to the lunch break. IN good weather, I walked the parking lot and read on my Sony Librie e-Reader. In bad weather I drove to a nearby mall (5 minutes) and walked 2 laps around it (2 miles) while reading.

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                                    • garak0410G
                                      garak0410 @thanksajdotcom
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                                      @thanksajdotcom said:

                                      Yeah, this should always be a LAST RESORT. Diet and exercise, extensively and to even extreme degrees, should be tried first.

                                      Agreed here...LAST RESORT...I lost 40 lbs on Weight Watchers and have more or less maintained that...I did the food tracker Sparkpeople and lost weight and I also did the Advocate 10 day challenge...all three of these require massive amounts of will power, which was always my problem...

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User
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                                        Running daily and drinking only water is how I keep my weight down. I'm 6' 3" 180 pounds

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                                        • tonyshowoffT
                                          tonyshowoff
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                                          I think saying "diet and exercise" really is meaningless unless you describe what that even means (@JaredBusch did though, I'm just saying when people say that in general), and I hate tracking things, I really despise any extra effort; I am truly lazy. So, here's my story.

                                          I got up to 375lbs and just did Atkins, didn't even bother exercising until after I lost the weight. Atkins works if you stick to it and continue to essentially stick to low-carb (under 50g of carbs per day for me) for good, eat a lot of fat (especially saturated), etc. I've never been more healthy, had better blood pressure, etc.

                                          I did notice the biggest thing was getting off the sugar soda, switched to diet, and I found that I liked Diet Mountaindew the most, it seemed to taste most like the regular, plus sugar free redbull as well, which does have like 3g of carbs though.

                                          The hardest was avoiding bread since I'm just completely in love with pizza, so I have it every once in a while. The second hardest was drinking enough water, 4 litres a day, which was hard at first but got easier.

                                          I don't worry about salt or anything either, especially since I drink a lot of water. I hate lettuce, so I eat spinach instead, but I still have a hard time with vegetables in general.

                                          What I liked was that so much protein allowed me to gain some muscle too whilst doing nothing, it was kinda weird, though I do have a genetic predisposition to muscle gain, and most people don't have this. Though most people who stay on Atkins or some form of it tend to report at least some muscle gain.

                                          My main problem is that I've got a gene for overeating*, i.e. not being able to realise that I'm full. High fat helps a lot with this and also usually what I do is figure out how much I want to eat and just cut that amount in half, seems to work ok, no measuring or any BS like that. Fat doesn't make you fat, though most Americans seem to think so, but then again if what you ate directly correlated to what was in your body, then I guess I got a lot of bacon and hamburgers in my arms **.

                                          *I had my genes analysed that's how I know this.
                                          **I feel a lot of guilt about not keeping kosher, but I just eat bacon, no other pork products

                                          In the end it doesn't matter what sort of diet or surgery you get if you don't change your life style. Plus also when it comes to exercise, stuff like running and walking doesn't really burn many calories. In fact, human beings are so efficient at running that we burn like 150 calories per mile, which is garbage.

                                          If you want to ramp up weight loss, what eats fat more than anything else, is muscles. Lift weights, free weights, just get some crappy ones from a yard sale or something, don't waste money when you don't to.

                                          Plenty of people get the surgery and just gain it all back slowly, because they go back to eating carbohydrates, and that's something to consider if you're genetically inclined toward type 2 diabetes (like me, and possibly you too), that your body will basically convert all sugars (carbs included) into fat, and counting calories will only work if you're running on like 700 calories a day for you, it certainly didn't work for me and was pure hell. Counting calories does work for about 25% of people though, so it may work for you.

                                          I feel awesome. I lift weights like I used to in college and now I'm getting more attention from the ladies, and a few dudes too, but hey, a complement is a complement. My wife is still on my ass about vegetables though.

                                          Just gotta stick to it.

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                                          • s.hacklemanS
                                            s.hackleman
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                                            I will add on to change of lifestyle. You can't keep living the life that made you unhealthy, but just change 1-2 things for a year or so, and expect a change no matter what surgery or diet you do. I went to the extreme, then landed somewhere in the middle. I did fat free, whole food, vegan for a year. At the same time I was going to the gym 5 days a week, stoped driving in exchange for my bicycle 60%+ of the time. Doing so I lost over 80lbs in a year and felt amazing. Now I have landed somewhere in the middle, brought some meat and dairy back in to my diet and with a newborn, biking everywhere isn't as easy of an option. I have put 10-15 lbs back on, but I still feel great and held that for 3 years.

                                            That all being said, it is about how you live. There isn't a surgery to change that. If you have the will power, cut back to 1,500 calories a day, drop soda and alcohol, get active and start choosing a bicycle or feet over a car when possible and hit the gym 4-5 days a week, unless you have a serious medical condition you will loose weight and feel a thousand times better. It isn't easy or fun (at first), but nothing great in life is easy. Good luck with what ever you decide on!

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