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    My Misadventures with Cloud At Cost

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    • StrongBadS
      StrongBad
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      DNS is the same anywhere. DNS is always your own thing. Most people here recommend CloudFlare. Your DNS is never affected by your hosting provider. That is completely separate. (Except for Reverse DNS, which is always the cloud provider.)

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      • StrongBadS
        StrongBad
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        You never point DNS to the provider's DNS servers. You need to have your own DNS service for your domain.

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        • DanpD
          Danp @StrongBad
          last edited by

          @StrongBad -- So, I can setup a free account on CloudFlare. What the advantage / disadvantage of using CF versus GoDaddy, who is my registrar? I guess by using CF, I can manage the DNS without concern for the registrar, which could change and the DNS would be unaffected, correct?

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom @Danp
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            @Danp said:

            @StrongBad -- So, I can setup a free account on CloudFlare. What the advantage / disadvantage of using CF versus GoDaddy, who is my registrar? I guess by using CF, I can manage the DNS without concern for the registrar, which could change and the DNS would be unaffected, correct?

            CloudFare is a CDN, which means if your site goes down, it's cached with them, so the site to the public will appear up, although any new content you published wouldn't be seen until your site went live again.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
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              @thanksaj said:

              @Danp said:

              @StrongBad -- So, I can setup a free account on CloudFlare. What the advantage / disadvantage of using CF versus GoDaddy, who is my registrar? I guess by using CF, I can manage the DNS without concern for the registrar, which could change and the DNS would be unaffected, correct?

              CloudFare is a CDN, which means if your site goes down, it's cached with them, so the site to the public will appear up, although any new content you published wouldn't be seen until your site went live again.

              Well, that is partially true. CloudFlare is both a DNS host AND a CDN. You can use DNS with or without the CDN. And the CDN can be turned on and off by A or CNAME record. How the CDN behaves can be configured. And new content is normally in seconds. I rarely see a delay even when caching is configured. Like, as fast as I can post and refresh, it is there.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Danp
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                @Danp said:

                @StrongBad -- So, I can setup a free account on CloudFlare. What the advantage / disadvantage of using CF versus GoDaddy, who is my registrar? I guess by using CF, I can manage the DNS without concern for the registrar, which could change and the DNS would be unaffected, correct?

                I always recommend CloudFlare, it's the best DNS host I have found. Your registrar should be ruled out out of hand, your DNS services and your web hosting and/or email hosting and your registrar should always be three discrete services. Doesn't matter who they are, they should never overlap. It's a dangerous loss of critical access if you put them together. Each protects you from the others, unless you make them all one.

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                • StrongBadS
                  StrongBad
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                  CloudFlare is the best DNS service that I have used. It's fast and stable, easy interface. And CDN features are included for FREE if you want them!

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                  • DanpD
                    Danp
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                    Appreciate all the feedback. From a CloudFare POV, what's the best way to handle multiple TLDs (.com, .net, etc) that resolve to the same website? Do I just add one to CF and then add DNS entries for the others?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Danp
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                      @Danp no, because that is not how DNS works.

                      Add each domain to cloudflare as another website.

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                      • DanpD
                        Danp
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                        Thanks @JaredBusch!

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          Danp - getting back to your question on what DNS your C@C servers should be using, you can point them toward any DNS servers you want. You'll have to do some performance testing to see which ones offer the best performance for your location.

                          You could for example use the C@C DNS servers, or you could use Google's 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.4.4.

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                          • DanpD
                            Danp
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                            Appreciate all of the input. I now have all of my hosted websites running on my C@C box with CloudFlare handling the DNS. Next step is to shut down my account over at MediaTemple.

                            Then I've got a ZendTo server that I've been hosting internally that I would like to move to the cloud. Anyone know if I can easily transfer this over to my Centos box? It's currently running on a Ubuntu VM.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Likely, but don't know that software specifically. You can get Ubuntu on CloudatCost too if needed.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                ZendTo seems a bit out of date. They offer packages for Ubuntu 12.04 (several versions old, five in fact.) And CentOS 6, which is a full version behind in the RHEL / CentOS world.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Danp
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                                  @Danp said:

                                  Appreciate all of the input. I now have all of my hosted websites running on my C@C box with CloudFlare handling the DNS. Next step is to shut down my account over at MediaTemple.

                                  Then I've got a ZendTo server that I've been hosting internally that I would like to move to the cloud. Anyone know if I can easily transfer this over to my Centos box? It's currently running on a Ubuntu VM.

                                  Never heard of ZendTo... Looking into it now, looks like it could be something to replace our FTP server...

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                                    A Former User @Danp
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                                    @Danp said:

                                    Appreciate all of the input. I now have all of my hosted websites running on my C@C box with CloudFlare handling the DNS. Next step is to shut down my account over at MediaTemple.

                                    Then I've got a ZendTo server that I've been hosting internally that I would like to move to the cloud. Anyone know if I can easily transfer this over to my Centos box? It's currently running on a Ubuntu VM.

                                    You'd need to reinstall it from the RPM package rather than the Deb. But, the config is likely the same or very similar.

                                    Also may want to check CloudatCosts TOS about file sharing.. not sure their stance on that.

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                                    • DanpD
                                      Danp
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                                      @scottalanmiller

                                      All of my sites are currently very light traffic, so I'd like to add the ZendTo site to this same box.

                                      @coliver

                                      ZendTo works great for our needs. It allows us to securely transfer larger files back and forth with clients.

                                      @thecreativeone91

                                      Thanks... I'll continue to research and maybe touch base with the developer. I can't imagine that our usage of this product would run afoul of C@C's TOS. We just need a secure means of exchange files with clients.

                                      Dan

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @A Former User
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                                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                                        Also may want to check CloudatCosts TOS about file sharing.. not sure their stance on that.

                                        What the heck are you talking about? This has nothing to do with C@C. They are not the internet police and there is nothing illegal about file sharing.

                                        If you host illegal shit and the authorities ask your host to shut you down, they will shut it down. But it is not the hosts job, directly. This is no different than any other service out there.

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                                          A Former User @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said:

                                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                                          Also may want to check CloudatCosts TOS about file sharing.. not sure their stance on that.

                                          What the heck are you talking about? This has nothing to do with C@C. They are not the internet police and there is nothing illegal about file sharing.

                                          If you host illegal shit and the authorities ask your host to shut you down, they will shut it down. But it is not the hosts job, directly. This is no different than any other service out there.

                                          Some VPS and Shared hosts explicitly disallow file sharing/hosting using their services in their TOS.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @A Former User
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                                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                                            Some VPS and Shared hosts explicitly disallow file sharing/hosting using their services in their TOS.

                                            My website has an image on it. I am thus hosting files.
                                            I am thus breaking their TOS.

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