Moving off VMware Hypervisor to something else - need input
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Small but profitable financial institution with upside down pyramid of doom VMware environment (3 ESXi hosts and a storage controller (has been rock solid for years))
Used to have a lot more VMs but now we're down to around 15 (Windows servers and some Linux based appliances)
Broadcom/VMware renewal isn't looking promising so I'm trying to figure out other possible options.
Looking at Nutanix VS Proxmox and surface level perception is that Proxmox could be better
Just looking for input.
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@dave247 Nutanix is literally the absolute last thing I'd ever touch. No place in a production environment.
ProxMox we have hundreds in production. If you want a KVM base (and what else would you realistically choose, XCP-ng maybe) then ProxMox is the place to be for sure.
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@dave247 said in Moving off VMware Hypervisor to something else - need input:
Looking at Nutanix VS Proxmox and surface level perception is that Proxmox could be better
I would quite literally place one as the worst possible option and one as the best. VMware would be close to Nutanix on the bad side. Nutanix, VMware and Hyper-V these days I don't know any argument for how to use them in production.
I like ProxMox and XCP-ng for pricing, licensing, experience, etc. There are loads of KVM systems out there, ProxMox is far from the only player. But I think you'd need a pretty incredible argument to use one given that most or all will be closed source (that means "not production ready" to us) and few have the experience, track record, support, industry knowledge and internal support of ProxMox.
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I'm in agreement with Scott here. There is a very short list of options, and Nutantix is not one of them.
Proxmox would be the primary choice (the backup server is really easy to work with as well), and XCP-NG if Proxmox can't be used.
Migrating from a VMWare to Proxmox is also really easy. I did a trial at a former work place.
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@dave247 Going from expensive VMWare to expensive Nutanix makes little sense.
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@scottalanmiller said in Moving off VMware Hypervisor to something else - need input:
@dave247 said in Moving off VMware Hypervisor to something else - need input:
Looking at Nutanix VS Proxmox and surface level perception is that Proxmox could be better
I would quite literally place one as the worst possible option and one as the best. VMware would be close to Nutanix on the bad side. Nutanix, VMware and Hyper-V these days I don't know any argument for how to use them in production.
I like ProxMox and XCP-ng for pricing, licensing, experience, etc. There are loads of KVM systems out there, ProxMox is far from the only player. But I think you'd need a pretty incredible argument to use one given that most or all will be closed source (that means "not production ready" to us) and few have the experience, track record, support, industry knowledge and internal support of ProxMox.
Thanks for the input Scott. All I have really used for the last 10 years is VMware so I just did a surface level search for other Hypervisors, so I'm not really even considering Nutanix, it was just one that came up. Anyway, everything I'm reading suggests that Proxmox is rock solid and that sounds like what I'll probably test out for a while as a VMware replacement. Plus it's free which is a plus, especially since VMware renewal would be insanely costly. I can check out XCP-ng too.
I really just want something that is stable and easy to work with. We don't have that complex of an environment so the only things I'd be doing is server firmware upgrades and Proxmox updates when needed. Doing that stuff with VMware always made me nervous since something would often break.
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@travisdh1 said in Moving off VMware Hypervisor to something else - need input:
I'm in agreement with Scott here. There is a very short list of options, and Nutantix is not one of them.
Proxmox would be the primary choice (the backup server is really easy to work with as well), and XCP-NG if Proxmox can't be used.
Migrating from a VMWare to Proxmox is also really easy. I did a trial at a former work place.
Thanks. That's great to hear that migrating from VMware to Proxmox is easy. And I'm currently using Veeam for our backups and that works well with Proxmox from what I'm reading.
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@DustinB3403 said in Moving off VMware Hypervisor to something else - need input:
@dave247 Going from expensive VMWare to expensive Nutanix makes little sense.
Yeah I was just googling other Hypervisors and looking into each. Proxmox sounds like a really good option and I'm going to test it out in my lab next week.
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@dave247 said in Moving off VMware Hypervisor to something else - need input:
I can check out XCP-ng too.
You should. It is fully open source, so the only thing we (Vates) are selling is professional support and maintenance. LMK if you have any questions about it.
