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    • gjacobseG
      gjacobse @pmoncho
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      @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.

      so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.

      Will have to see

      Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.

      For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.

      And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.

      While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.

      Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?

      The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.

      If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.

      Keep in mind, I"m a contractor. and yea,.. it's in the handbook.. it's not paid out. take it or lose it.

      The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...

      In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.

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      • gjacobseG
        gjacobse @pmoncho
        last edited by

        @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.

        so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.

        Will have to see

        Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.

        For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.

        And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.

        While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.

        Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?

        The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.

        If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.

        Yea,.. sadly - while I am rather against it,.. it's likely how I will have to handle this.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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          @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...

          A COO has little room to do anything? How is that a COO?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
            last edited by

            @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.

            And the COO hasn't stepped in to do something about it? How is a former junior manager (compared to the COO) able to do that but the COO unable to hire someone?

            How are companies this bad?

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            • pmonchoP
              pmoncho @gjacobse
              last edited by

              @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.

              so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.

              Will have to see

              Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.

              For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.

              And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.

              While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.

              Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?

              The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.

              If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.

              Keep in mind, I"m a contractor. and yea,.. it's in the handbook.. it's not paid out. take it or lose it.

              The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...

              In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.

              That is some serious moola. The CFO might be in on it too. A friend of my father, owned an accounting firm with a side IT company, got busted in kick back scam to the tune of $10 Mil. All the C-Level execs were included in the scam though.

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...

                A COO has little room to do anything? How is that a COO?

                The COO can't tell my company to pay it out -

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.

                  And the COO hasn't stepped in to do something about it? How is a former junior manager (compared to the COO) able to do that but the COO unable to hire someone?

                  How are companies this bad?

                  From the meeting we had with the COO and the CEO made it seem that the Director washed a lot of information both directions. To the C-suite and from them... so seems they didn't know about a number of things.

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                  • gjacobseG
                    gjacobse @pmoncho
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                    @pmoncho
                    Yikes -
                    No thanks.. I just would like to have my 94 hours considering,... or at least a good bit of it.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @pmoncho
                      last edited by

                      @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.

                      so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.

                      Will have to see

                      Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.

                      For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.

                      And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.

                      While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.

                      Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?

                      The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.

                      If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.

                      Keep in mind, I"m a contractor. and yea,.. it's in the handbook.. it's not paid out. take it or lose it.

                      The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...

                      In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.

                      That is some serious moola. The CFO might be in on it too. A friend of my father, owned an accounting firm with a side IT company, got busted in kick back scam to the tune of $10 Mil. All the C-Level execs were included in the scam though.

                      SOOOOO common (to do it, not to get busted.)

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                      • EddieJenningsE
                        EddieJennings
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                        Forgot how long it takes Vultr to take a snapshot 😞

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @EddieJennings
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                          @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          Forgot how long it takes Vultr to take a snapshot 😞

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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                            @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Forgot how long it takes Vultr to take a snapshot 😞

                            OMG, you have time to make s'mores while waiting for that.

                            And I mean time to...

                            Drive to a campsite. Find a tree. Cut it down. Cut it up. Make a bonfire. Wait for it to die down low. Then start roasting some marshmallows.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              Forgot how long it takes Vultr to take a snapshot 😞

                              OMG, you have time to make s'mores while waiting for that.

                              And I mean time to...

                              Drive to a campsite. Find a tree. Cut it down. Cut it up. Make a bonfire. Wait for it to die down low. Then start roasting some marshmallows.

                              Realize you forgot chocolate and go back to get the chocolate. Come back, then realize that you dont' have graham crackers, and go back to the store and get that too ?

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                              • WrCombsW
                                WrCombs @dafyre
                                last edited by

                                @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Forgot how long it takes Vultr to take a snapshot 😞

                                OMG, you have time to make s'mores while waiting for that.

                                And I mean time to...

                                Drive to a campsite. Find a tree. Cut it down. Cut it up. Make a bonfire. Wait for it to die down low. Then start roasting some marshmallows.

                                Realize you forgot chocolate and go back to get the chocolate. Come back, then realize that you dont' have graham crackers, and go back to the store and get that too ?

                                Sounds about right.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
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                                  On a nice hike

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @EddieJennings
                                    last edited by

                                    @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.

                                    so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.

                                    Will have to see

                                    Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.

                                    When I left public school teaching (Georgia), I didn't receive any payment for 500+ sick leave hours 😞

                                    I know of no place that pays out sick leave - doesn't mean non exist.. I just know of none.

                                    But PTO - that's different.

                                    If Gene was a contractor though ... not sure how PTO would even work. I'm sure Scott does though.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @gjacobse
                                      last edited by

                                      @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.

                                      so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.

                                      Will have to see

                                      Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.

                                      For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.

                                      And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.

                                      While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.

                                      Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?

                                      The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.

                                      If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.

                                      Keep in mind, I"m a contractor. and yea,.. it's in the handbook.. it's not paid out. take it or lose it.

                                      The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...

                                      In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.

                                      since the contractor isn't going to pay it out - can't the clinic just give it to you in a bank?

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                                      • gjacobseG
                                        gjacobse @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @pmoncho said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        Too many to quote using the phone,.. thanks.

                                        so- now it is a bit bitter sweet as I may very well lose all of my accrued PTO,..94 hours.

                                        Will have to see

                                        Dunno about your state, but every state I have dealt with, accrued means it is earned and is 100% required to be paid out.

                                        For those in Ohio, the employer must have a written policy stating under what conditions accrued PTO will not be paid.

                                        And there’s the ‘rub’ of course.

                                        While I live and work in Kentucky, the company that pays me is in Ohio…. And yes- it’s in the Employee handbook. So it’s very very likely that I’ll get screwed out of it.

                                        Forgot to mention, I don't see why a company believes in not paying out PTO hours for mainly, good, stable employees who put in their 2 week notice?

                                        The now ex-employee will blab to the rest which may foster a issue amongst the current staff as the rumor runs amuck within the company.

                                        If an employee has a good hunch they will not be paid, they might as well go on vacation for two weeks, come back for a day and then walk out a day before starting their new job. --- Seen this happen in the last few years.

                                        Keep in mind, I"m a contractor. and yea,.. it's in the handbook.. it's not paid out. take it or lose it.

                                        The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...

                                        In the back of my mind,.. the former Director is getting kick backs from all the money spent. the organization has spent over $1.1M on all services and products in the last 18months. And this is a clinic of less than 300 people.

                                        since the contractor isn't going to pay it out - can't the clinic just give it to you in a bank?

                                        How would that work? The position I accepted is not with the clinic.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                                          @gjacobse said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          The company I work FOR does carry over. and the COO is a little confused why I wasn't hired,.. LAST YEAR,.. but she has little room to do anything...

                                          Not something you likely want to bother perusing, but keep in mind that almost always (seriously, the exceptions are few and far between), you are an EMPLOYEE of the clinic by law. So anything in their handbook that says they have a policy, applies to you and the money is owed to you. The contracting firm has no say in the matter, they are legally bound to pay you for it because you are the clinics employee. Your salary is not discretionary.

                                          The clinic is surprised that you weren't hired. That's likely a cover story (it always is.) Because you've been hired all this time.

                                          Try to the IRS duck test for employment. I'm quite certain you are a clear cut clinical employee.

                                          Remember in the US, who pays you is not a factor in who is your employer. You are employed by the company that you spend your time with and who directs your work. If you are full time with a single client, you might be paid as if you were a contractor, but you are an employee.

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                                          • gjacobseG
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                                            While some things are still in flux - it may have a good out come. I have spoken to all parties and it is currently implied that I will get the time. It of course remains to be seen - but am hopeful.

                                            I've communicated with the new HR office and set my start date.

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