Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID
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We still have a number of POTS lines here at the office(s). But - we are looking for an avenue away from them. The new Lexmark printer we are starting to deploy will do POTS and etherFax - we are working to migrate to etherFax I believe... But - with these new printers I can take an analog fax and save it to the NAS and not actually print it.
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@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
We still have a number of POTS lines here at the office(s). But - we are looking for an avenue away from them. The new Lexmark printer we are starting to deploy will do POTS and etherFax - we are working to migrate to etherFax I believe...
What is etherFax?
But - with these new printers I can take an analog fax and save it to the NAS and not actually print it.
We've been doing that for 20+ years. Though it still amazes me how many people just have and fax machine spitting out paper.
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@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
What is etherFax?
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@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
What is etherFax?
Interesting - so it's email for fax machines
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@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
we are working to migrate to etherFax I believe.
So just a way of avoiding free, secure email to do something questionable and cumbersome? Why? Why do people hate security and efficiency so much!!
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@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
What is etherFax?
Interesting - so it's email for fax machines
Yeah, it's a non-fax machine that is avoiding using the industry standard replacement that is extremely secure and everyone already has, while also completely avoiding faxing.
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@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
What is etherFax?
We have set FORCE TLS on all of our outgoing email. This ensures that we only send email over encrypted connections.
if your management would accept that - then you too could do the same.
The issue is getting the other side to have a process for dealing with receiving emails instead of faxes.
We have M365 - I use power automate to watch a shared mailbox - and when an attachment comes in - it pulls it out and saves it to a folder in sharepoint. that folder is mapped into OneDrive for Business for those who need it. Works pretty slick.
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@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
What is etherFax?
We have set FORCE TLS on all of our outgoing email. This ensures that we only send email over encrypted connections.
if your management would accept that - then you too could do the same.
The issue is getting the other side to have a process for dealing with receiving emails instead of faxes.
We have M365 - I use power automate to watch a shared mailbox - and when an attachment comes in - it pulls it out and saves it to a folder in sharepoint. that folder is mapped into OneDrive for Business for those who need it. Works pretty slick.
The goal - at some point - is to follow the same thought. Fax pops across etherFax and is then dropped into ODfB for the site / department. Most of the faxes that come in are one that are put right into the EMR - so there isn't much need to print...
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@dashrender THisis an awsome idea. I need to lay with this!
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@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
What is etherFax?
We have set FORCE TLS on all of our outgoing email. This ensures that we only send email over encrypted connections.
if your management would accept that - then you too could do the same.
The issue is getting the other side to have a process for dealing with receiving emails instead of faxes.
We have M365 - I use power automate to watch a shared mailbox - and when an attachment comes in - it pulls it out and saves it to a folder in sharepoint. that folder is mapped into OneDrive for Business for those who need it. Works pretty slick.
The goal - at some point - is to follow the same thought. Fax pops across etherFax and is then dropped into ODfB for the site / department. Most of the faxes that come in are one that are put right into the EMR - so there isn't much need to print...
Does etherfax failout to to real fax calling from their office when the other side doesn't have etherfax?
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@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
What is etherFax?
We have set FORCE TLS on all of our outgoing email. This ensures that we only send email over encrypted connections.
if your management would accept that - then you too could do the same.
The issue is getting the other side to have a process for dealing with receiving emails instead of faxes.
We have M365 - I use power automate to watch a shared mailbox - and when an attachment comes in - it pulls it out and saves it to a folder in sharepoint. that folder is mapped into OneDrive for Business for those who need it. Works pretty slick.
The goal - at some point - is to follow the same thought. Fax pops across etherFax and is then dropped into ODfB for the site / department. Most of the faxes that come in are one that are put right into the EMR - so there isn't much need to print...
Why are you accepting your own faxes? Your EMR (my EMR) will accept the faxes directly for you.
We originally turned this on Day one with that EMR - but turned it off 6 months later because the Vendor was attaching old notes to new orders and closing the orders causing them not to actually happen. Huge medical issues there.
2 years ago we turned it back on - all faxes go to the EMR vendor directly - they sort them into patient charts directly, label them, etc. Those that can't be sorted are assigned to our Medical Records staff to handle. This last part includes things like memos, ads, etc that aren't medical in nature.
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@jt1001001 said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender THisis an awsome idea. I need to lay with this!
Yeah - this was a really nice solution -
This customer has FreePBX which will accept faxes - FreePBX forwards to a shared mailbox. Then Power Automate picks up the file and drops it in SP as I said.
This solution really improved the workflow - even when it was - Faxes into Fax machine - saved to a local file share - the problem was users couldn't access the faxes from home - moving it all to Sharepoint solved that problem.
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@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
hy are you accepting your own faxes? Your EMR (my EMR) will accept the faxes directly for you.
Thanks for making me spew Mountain Dew out my nose....
You jest right? Depends on how you are set up maybe. Remember - This is so overly complex of a configuration for the same application...
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@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
hy are you accepting your own faxes? Your EMR (my EMR) will accept the faxes directly for you.
Thanks for making me spew Mountain Dew out my nose....
You jest right? Depends on how you are set up maybe. Remember - This is so overly complex of a configuration for the same application...
Perhaps you saw my post about why is Gene's company using VDI for EMR? Do you know why?
beyond that though - I'm not sure what's so complex about having the EMR accept your faxes directly? you can have a different number for each department and different rules for each.
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@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
I'm not sure what's so complex about having the EMR accept your faxes directly? you can have a different number for each department and different rules for each.
And this is where I have to go back,.... and ask questions of people that may know more about it....
Allegedly - lol... Allegedly it was something that was started, paid for,.. and then - abandoned..... for another solution that was paid for and implemented... Allegedly. So - it's a case of .....
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@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
I'm not sure what's so complex about having the EMR accept your faxes directly? you can have a different number for each department and different rules for each.
And this is where I have to go back,.... and ask questions of people that may know more about it....
Allegedly - lol... Allegedly it was something that was started, paid for,.. and then - abandoned..... for another solution that was paid for and implemented... Allegedly. So - it's a case of .....
uh - if it was - then why are we talking about etherfax?
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@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
uh - if it was - then why are we talking about etherfax?
I knew not the previous supposed and alleged solution.
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@gjacobse said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
@dashrender said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
uh - if it was - then why are we talking about etherfax?
I knew not the previous supposed and alleged solution.
You're kidding - etherfax is the new solution? oh man..
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Move to a Virtual Inbound and Outbound fax service. Much cheaper than real fax and much more flexible
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@eleceng said in Will faxes ever die - cheapest way to forward a DID:
Move to a Virtual Inbound and Outbound fax service. Much cheaper than real fax and much more flexible
I have been looking at that for years, and it's Never been true.
We accept more than 700 faxes a month - this normally amounts to something like $600+/m for most services I've looked at.
it's significantly cheaper to have a local fax machine, local provided dial tone (from Cox is $35/m) saving to a network share.
Now days we have a SIP trunk delivering to a FreePBX server which emails to our O365 account where a power automate script grabs the file and saves it to Sharepoint for anyone to access.
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