Gaming PC Setup
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Need some advice on how to configure this guy for the kid.
ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING II
Amd Ryzen5 3600
16gb ram (will have to check speed)
RTX 3060 ventus 2x 12g ocSo the big question is this, I ordered this without HD's as I have x2 240gb ssd. But it came with x2 2tb.
Looking my initial thought was to use AMD StoreMI where you use the SSD as cache for the most frequently accessed stuff.
But would there be any benifit of make RAID 0 out of the pairs instead. Then maybe using the StoreMI and use the SSD Raid as cache for the HD Raid?
Or just pull some drives out and not use them
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@hobbit666 said in Gaming PC Setup:
Need some advice on how to configure this guy for the kid.
ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING II
Amd Ryzen5 3600
16gb ram (will have to check speed)
RTX 3060 ventus 2x 12g ocSo the big question is this, I ordered this without HD's as I have x2 240gb ssd. But it came with x2 2tb.
Looking my initial thought was to use AMD StoreMI where you use the SSD as cache for the most frequently accessed stuff.
But would there be any benifit of make RAID 0 out of the pairs instead. Then maybe using the StoreMI and use the SSD Raid as cache for the HD Raid?
Or just pull some drives out and not use them
Personally, I'd not use HDD in any PC anymore, no matter the size. I'd choose to have a single 128gb SSD over 2 1TB spinners any day, and upgrade the SSDs when needed or even initially.
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@obsolesce said in Gaming PC Setup:
Personally, I'd not use HDD in any PC anymore, no matter the size. I'd choose to have a single 128gb SSD over 2 1TB spinners any day, and upgrade the SSDs when needed or even initially.
Not going to install much on 128gb now a day
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@hobbit666 said in Gaming PC Setup:
@obsolesce said in Gaming PC Setup:
Personally, I'd not use HDD in any PC anymore, no matter the size. I'd choose to have a single 128gb SSD over 2 1TB spinners any day, and upgrade the SSDs when needed or even initially.
Not going to install much on 128gb now a day
I know, besides the point. I'd rather do what I can with a 128 vs 2tb spinner. Of course I'd immediately get something bigger than 128,but I was just making a point.
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@obsolesce said in Gaming PC Setup:
@hobbit666 said in Gaming PC Setup:
@obsolesce said in Gaming PC Setup:
Personally, I'd not use HDD in any PC anymore, no matter the size. I'd choose to have a single 128gb SSD over 2 1TB spinners any day, and upgrade the SSDs when needed or even initially.
Not going to install much on 128gb now a day
I know, besides the point. I'd rather do what I can with a 128 vs 2tb spinner. Of course I'd immediately get something bigger than 128,but I was just making a point.
I know what your saying but this is what I'm working with
So would you say maybe just use the 2x 240gb ssd (Raid)
Going to keep one 2tb as she wants to get into youtube/twtich etc so will need some storage for video editing -
@hobbit666 said in Gaming PC Setup:
@obsolesce said in Gaming PC Setup:
@hobbit666 said in Gaming PC Setup:
@obsolesce said in Gaming PC Setup:
Personally, I'd not use HDD in any PC anymore, no matter the size. I'd choose to have a single 128gb SSD over 2 1TB spinners any day, and upgrade the SSDs when needed or even initially.
Not going to install much on 128gb now a day
I know, besides the point. I'd rather do what I can with a 128 vs 2tb spinner. Of course I'd immediately get something bigger than 128,but I was just making a point.
I know what your saying but this is what I'm working with
So would you say maybe just use the 2x 240gb ssd (Raid)
Going to keep one 2tb as she wants to get into youtube/twtich etc so will need some storage for video editingIf it was my setup, I'd use them as individual drives, havi g a
and D:. If space starts to get low, then I'd install games on the other one. I don't know of any games that do not let you specify the location to install.If you did raid, then you're stuck with 240gb. If you did raid 0 then your failure chance is double and all is gone. I personally don't mind 2 separate drives.
Its up to you to do how you like.
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What if I added a NVMe SK Hynix 256 m.2 direct on the motherboard connector ðĪŠ
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@hobbit666 What is the goal here?
I personally wouldn't use spinners for anything other than plain storage, never as a working drive.
You mentioned you tube - I'd stored completed projects on the spinners, but all in process stuff would be worked on from the SSDs.
Are you that worried about an SSD failure that you need RAID 1?
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@dashrender said in Gaming PC Setup:
Are you that worried about an SSD failure that you need RAID 1?
I was thinking Raid 0 as the SSDs are small, 240gb so raiding would give 480. Thought might easier than installing stuff on different drives.
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@hobbit666 said in Gaming PC Setup:
Or just pull some drives out and not use them
I have an 8TB drive for storing games. It's amazing how quickly you go through space on a gaming PC. Games are so cheap compared to consoles and they don't go bad just because a new gen device comes out. So you tend to accumulate.
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@scottalanmiller hope that's not a SSD that would cost a fortune
Went with install windows on the NVMe drive, then used the other two as the cache for the spinners with AMD StoreMI thingy.
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Now just need to work out how to fix Minecraft as it giving an error after failed install (java edition)
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@hobbit666 said in Gaming PC Setup:
@dashrender said in Gaming PC Setup:
Are you that worried about an SSD failure that you need RAID 1?
I was thinking Raid 0 as the SSDs are small, 240gb so raiding would give 480. Thought might easier than installing stuff on different drives.
Yeah was thinking spinners for block storage.Where are you getting the RAID from? any prosumer boards have real RAID 0/1 on them? I wouldn't think the cost of a RAID card to be worth while.
RAID 0 - not worth the risk for the slight convenience of installing to a single drive.
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@hobbit666 said in Gaming PC Setup:
@scottalanmiller hope that's not a SSD that would cost a fortune
Went with install windows on the NVMe drive, then used the other two as the cache for the spinners with AMD StoreMI thingy.
Using only what you have, the SSD cache for the large spinners is the best option. That's cool you have the option to do that.
That said, I'd rather just get a decent Samsung 1TB m.2 SSD and be done with it. Ya if you have 8TBof games, that won't work, but that is more rare. I probably have a few TB of games, but they are steam games and other similar where if I want to play it, I'll install them then. I don't need all 10000 games installed or stored on my HDD at once lol.
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@obsolesce said in Gaming PC Setup:
That said, I'd rather just get a decent Samsung 1TB m.2 SSD and be done with it.
I would too but. Out of the price range
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@breitenberg said in Gaming PC Setup:
it is cheaper to build a gaming PC rather than buying a pre-built gaming PC. ... In most cases, the more expensive a prebuilt PC is, the more the cost of assembly and profit margin of the seller will be. Therefore, it is indeed cheaper to build a PC.
That's not completely true currently. If I want to build a gaming PC with an RTX 3090, that alone will cost me at the very least $3k for an off brand card... Yeah just the card itself. However, I could order a pre-built gaming pc with that card for about the same price or just a little more. Some even less.
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@breitenberg said in Gaming PC Setup:
it is cheaper to build a gaming PC rather than buying a pre-built gaming PC. ... In most cases, the more expensive a prebuilt PC is, the more the cost of assembly and profit margin of the seller will be. Therefore, it is indeed cheaper to build a PC.
Have you seen how hilariously bad most pre-built computers have been lately? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY-SEPGvqxY&list=PLsuVSmND84QuM2HKzG7ipbIbE_R5EnCLM
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@obsolesce said in Gaming PC Setup:
@breitenberg said in Gaming PC Setup:
it is cheaper to build a gaming PC rather than buying a pre-built gaming PC. ... In most cases, the more expensive a prebuilt PC is, the more the cost of assembly and profit margin of the seller will be. Therefore, it is indeed cheaper to build a PC.
That's not completely true currently. If I want to build a gaming PC with an RTX 3090, that alone will cost me at the very least $3k for an off brand card... Yeah just the card itself. However, I could order a pre-built gaming pc with that card for about the same price or just a little more. Some even less.
That's why I went with a Dell. The whole computer was cheaper than the card on its own.
