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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @pmoncho
      last edited by JaredBusch

      @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      right of free speech

      There is not a "right to free speech" from any organization except the government.

      I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding.

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      • pmonchoP
        pmoncho @JaredBusch
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        @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        right of free speech

        There is not a "right to free speech" from any organization except the government.

        I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding.

        "of" was a typo. Should have been "to"

        I don't have a fundamental misunderstanding. I'm good.

        Like I stated earlier, (correcting the typo) " I guess it all depends on how important one views the right to free speech and what is considered censorship." (notice how I did not say "I")

        People denied by businesses for the past XXX years have been helped by new government laws. I see this possibly going the same direction.

        I believe President Trump should start his own and go that direction. Create more competition and take millions of users off the other platforms in a very short amount of time.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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          @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          I guess it all depends on how important one views the right of free speech and what is considered censorship.

          Right. The free speech of the platform owners is what is in question. Freedom means that they control what their platform does. Since day one, the US has always given publications the right to their own freedom of speech, it is not seized by the government.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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            @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            Governments for the past XXX years continue to tell businesses who and what they have to accept if they want to do business in Country/State/County A, B, C...

            Right... the polar opposite of free speech. Trump is fighting to ban freedom of business and speech and make his own, government controller speech, get treated differently. Freedom for him, not for anyone else. Anti-freedom. When newspapers, television, teachers, etc. are told what they can and cannot say, and who can and cannot say it ... we have no freedom.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @pmoncho
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              @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              I believe President Trump should start his own and go that direction. Create more competition and take millions of users off the other platforms in a very short amount of time.

              I thought he did that. He's said it enough. I just thought no one cared and it died on the vine.

              If he wanted the right to say anything, he would have done that already. But freedom of speech isn't his goal. He wants the right to dictate what can be said elsewhere in the private space of other people. He wants to control not just the freedom of what he can say, but the freedom of listening. He wants to remove the controls that we have legally in the private space to be able to turn someone off.

              It's 1984... the TV that you can't turn off. That's what this is about. It's not really about what he CAN say, but WHERE he can say it and who can stop listening.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                I thought he did that.

                He just tried to use a different platform.

                Said platform shutdown until it found new hosts willing to accept them.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  I thought he did that.

                  He just tried to use a different platform.

                  Said platform shutdown until it found new hosts willing to accept them.

                  https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/01/gettr-trump-social-media-platform-497606

                  That's what I saw.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
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                    https://techcrunch.com/2021/07/06/gettr-trump-social-network-hack-defaced/

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      That's what I saw.

                      Ah, had not heard of that one yet.

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                      • pmonchoP
                        pmoncho @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        I thought he did that.

                        He just tried to use a different platform.

                        Said platform shutdown until it found new hosts willing to accept them.

                        https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/01/gettr-trump-social-media-platform-497606

                        That's what I saw.

                        Yes, he mentioned a few times that he was contemplating starting his own.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                          That's what I saw.

                          Ah, had not heard of that one yet.

                          I found it, but Google doesn't seem to list it...

                          https://gettr.com/

                          LOL, funny stuff.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @pmoncho
                            last edited by JaredBusch

                            @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            Yes, he mentioned a few times that he was contemplating starting his own.

                            He says it all the time. But he has not. Various organizations have.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
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                              Look, they recommend that you follow the "solid blocks of stone that are pyramids in the desert are actually grain silos" guy...

                              https://gettr.com/user/benscarson

                              This is why Johns Hopkins will never be a feather in anyone's cap when talking to me. JH actually promoted this guy, not just hired him. If you work for JH, I assume you are the uber-dunce.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @pmoncho said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                Yes, he mentioned a few times that he was contemplating starting his own.

                                He says it all the time. But he has not. Various organizations have.

                                He's at least using it...

                                https://gettr.com/user/trumppresident

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  He's at least using it...

                                  Using is not starting. But yeah.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Apparently the problem with Team Trump (that's what they are called, not an opinion) is that they promised that the purpose would be to be a censor free platform but now it is all spam and fake accounts so its being heavily censored..

                                    https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2021-07-07/team-trump-launches-gettr-alternative-social-media-site/100268118

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                      @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      He's at least using it...

                                      Using is not starting. But yeah.

                                      Problem is... as a person who isn't even literate, let alone able to figure out what a website is, what does "Trump starting a platform" look like other than encouraging people in his sphere to make something he influences and to get it online? It's not like he has funds to pay for this stuff himself (he's dirt poor according to all reports) nor the wherewithal to even understand what it is. I mean this guys a dufus. You can like or hate him as a person, but you can't argue that he's got any smarts in there, this is the dumbest sounding public person potentially, ever. I can't imagine what talking to him about "making a website" would go like.

                                      So having people in his circle create a platform that's exactly what he said that he wanted, after demanding publicly that it happen... is what "Trump makes his own platform" would be if we defined the parameters before it happened.

                                      Just like if anyone's senile grandmother suddenly got hopped up on coke and demanded she get her own Facebook where no knitting pattern would be censored. She's likely have no idea what she was saying. But some well meaning cousin might spin up a WordPress site to keep her happy.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        Problem is... as a person who isn't even literate, let alone able to figure out what a website is, what does "Trump starting a platform" look like other than encouraging people in his sphere to make something he influences and to get it online?

                                        Directly from your first link a few posts up.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          Problem is... as a person who isn't even literate, let alone able to figure out what a website is, what does "Trump starting a platform" look like other than encouraging people in his sphere to make something he influences and to get it online?

                                          Directly from your first link a few posts up.

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                                          34fb56ad-a5ae-4a4e-a2db-56f802098f73-image.png

                                          That doesn't clear much up, though, right? He said he wanted this done, his inner circle followed that order. That's what "Trump makes something" looks like.

                                          He wanted a wall built. He told people to build one. He didn't go out there with a hammer himself.

                                          In a situation where you want something done that you know nothing about, and you tell your people you want it... and it gets made... even if they say "we don't know if he's participate", that doesn't change the fact that he gave a loose order and it was loosely followed.

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                                          • mlnewsM
                                            mlnews
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                                            Microsoft’s emergency patch fails to fix critical “PrintNightmare” vulnerability

                                            Game-over code-execution attacks are still possible even after fix is installed.
                                            An emergency patch Microsoft issued on Tuesday fails to fully fix a critical security vulnerability in all supported versions of Windows that allows attackers to take control of infected systems and run code of their choice, researchers said. The threat, colloquially known as PrintNightmare, stems from bugs in the Windows print spooler, which provides printing functionality inside local networks. Proof-of-concept exploit code was publicly released and then pulled back, but not before others had copied it. Researchers track the vulnerability as CVE-2021-34527.

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