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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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      @dashrender said in Changing subnet mask?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Changing subnet mask?:

      @siringo said in Changing subnet mask?:

      I know the subnets are different, but with all devices having 10.0.0.x addresses I'm thinking they still may be seen by the /24 devices????

      Yes, if everything falls within the scope of a /24, then all of the devices that are in a larger pool will keep working. But they ALL have to be already in the smaller pool and ONLY the subnet mask gets changed.

      But again... why?

      Forgetting about the - but why part...

      The OP could make sure all devices are in the /24 before touching anything by changing DHCP to only hand out addresses in /24 range, then move by hand any staticly assigned devices into that range.

      Yes, quite doable.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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        @dashrender said in Changing subnet mask?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Changing subnet mask?:

        @siringo said in Changing subnet mask?:

        I know the subnets are different, but with all devices having 10.0.0.x addresses I'm thinking they still may be seen by the /24 devices????

        Yes, if everything falls within the scope of a /24, then all of the devices that are in a larger pool will keep working. But they ALL have to be already in the smaller pool and ONLY the subnet mask gets changed.

        But again... why?

        Forgetting about the - but why part...

        The OP could make sure all devices are in the /24 before touching anything by changing DHCP to only hand out addresses in /24 range, then move by hand any staticly assigned devices into that range.

        I gave that process above.

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        • siringoS
          siringo @IRJ
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          @irj said in Changing subnet mask?:

          @siringo said in Changing subnet mask?:

          @dashrender said in Changing subnet mask?:

          Then comes the question - does he have the gear needed to do that?

          the answer is no, the answer to whether I have the desire or need is also no.

          That's a very sad answer IMO

          sorry to have disappointed you 😉

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          • siringoS
            siringo @Dashrender
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            @dashrender said in Changing subnet mask?:

            @travisdh1 said in Changing subnet mask?:

            @jaredbusch said in Changing subnet mask?:

            @travisdh1 said in Changing subnet mask?:

            You're conflating VLANs with security.

            You need to realize who you are talking to.

            @IRJ is probably the most skilled security person on the community.

            I know this, and statements like he made give me headaches after having to explain to other people that VLAN does nothing for security if you don't have firewall/access rules as well.

            The types of places @IRJ has worked at, I agree that it would be insane to have a flat network.

            This is my thoughts - most small businesses don't need/want more complexity than a flat network.

            ^^^ real world.

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            • siringoS
              siringo @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Changing subnet mask?:

              @siringo said in Changing subnet mask?:

              Inherited an old SBS network which has been upgraded, but is still using the 10.0.0.0 /8 setup.
              I was thinking of changing the subnet to /24.

              while the old addressing is insane, what's the reason to change? Unless there is a benefit, why? Just reducing the address pool isn't going to buy you anything.

              Yes this ^^^ exactly Scott. I'm of the same mind, that's part of why I threw the question out there, I wanted 2nd opinions.

              Everything is working fine ATM, why would I want to make an unneccessary change that provided no benefit but could introduce downtime. I susbcribe heavily to the KISS principal, hence my lack of interest in VLANing in this instance.

              The only reason I came up with, when thinking about the change is that it may make the environment 'look' more professional by having a more appropriately scoped, network.

              Thanks for all the opinions and information it is all greatly appreciated.

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