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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @dafyre
      last edited by

      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      reading this
      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/03/att-lobbies-against-nationwide-fiber-says-10mbps-uploads-are-good-enough

      I don't like AT & T. My dealings with many of their various types of business have left me unhappy. I read the article as AT & T going wah, wah, we'll fix our mistakes, wah, wah, we need more money, wah wah, we don't want to do the extra work.

      While I do get the fact that if they have to build out fiber infrastructure in the Middle of Nowhere, that it will take longer to see a ROI, so they really don't want to do it. I say stay out of it and let cities that want to roll their own do it. There's been a few cities that have done so and have gotten good results and happy customers. (According to this recent-ish article from TechDirt.

      From what I recall reading last night - this was mostly about rural.... It's hard for me not to side with them on the expense to supporting rural America - they likely never make up the expenses...
      the incoming satellite solutions should help a lot!

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Dashrender
        last edited by JaredBusch

        @dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        reading this
        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/03/att-lobbies-against-nationwide-fiber-says-10mbps-uploads-are-good-enough

        I don't like AT & T. My dealings with many of their various types of business have left me unhappy. I read the article as AT & T going wah, wah, we'll fix our mistakes, wah, wah, we need more money, wah wah, we don't want to do the extra work.

        While I do get the fact that if they have to build out fiber infrastructure in the Middle of Nowhere, that it will take longer to see a ROI, so they really don't want to do it. I say stay out of it and let cities that want to roll their own do it. There's been a few cities that have done so and have gotten good results and happy customers. (According to this recent-ish article from TechDirt.

        From what I recall reading last night - this was mostly about rural.... It's hard for me not to side with them on the expense to supporting rural America - they likely never make up the expenses...

        While I will not side with AT&T on this, or anything really, the point about the cost of supporting rural with fixed line services is valid. It is stupid expensive and no company should be forced to do it with no recompense.

        The family of the woman I was dating in 1994 had a small farm in south central Missouri ( @pchiodo specifically, outside Licking, MO). The road the farm house was on had 5 houses. It was still on a party line. They finally got distinct dial tone in 1995. I am 100% certain that AT&T (local provider) will never earn back the cost of putting in that copper.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          reading this
          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/03/att-lobbies-against-nationwide-fiber-says-10mbps-uploads-are-good-enough

          I don't like AT & T. My dealings with many of their various types of business have left me unhappy. I read the article as AT & T going wah, wah, we'll fix our mistakes, wah, wah, we need more money, wah wah, we don't want to do the extra work.

          While I do get the fact that if they have to build out fiber infrastructure in the Middle of Nowhere, that it will take longer to see a ROI, so they really don't want to do it. I say stay out of it and let cities that want to roll their own do it. There's been a few cities that have done so and have gotten good results and happy customers. (According to this recent-ish article from TechDirt.

          From what I recall reading last night - this was mostly about rural.... It's hard for me not to side with them on the expense to supporting rural America - they likely never make up the expenses...

          While I will not side with AT&T on this, or anything really, the point about the cost of supporting rural with fixed line services is valid. It is stupid expensive and no company should be forced to do it with no recompense.

          Agreed completely - so my next question is - do you think this should be done at the taxpayer's expense?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            reading this
            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/03/att-lobbies-against-nationwide-fiber-says-10mbps-uploads-are-good-enough

            I don't like AT & T. My dealings with many of their various types of business have left me unhappy. I read the article as AT & T going wah, wah, we'll fix our mistakes, wah, wah, we need more money, wah wah, we don't want to do the extra work.

            While I do get the fact that if they have to build out fiber infrastructure in the Middle of Nowhere, that it will take longer to see a ROI, so they really don't want to do it. I say stay out of it and let cities that want to roll their own do it. There's been a few cities that have done so and have gotten good results and happy customers. (According to this recent-ish article from TechDirt.

            From what I recall reading last night - this was mostly about rural.... It's hard for me not to side with them on the expense to supporting rural America - they likely never make up the expenses...

            While I will not side with AT&T on this, or anything really, the point about the cost of supporting rural with fixed line services is valid. It is stupid expensive and no company should be forced to do it with no recompense.

            Agreed completely - so my next question is - do you think this should be done at the taxpayer's expense?

            Well that is how it is done now. That is one of the reasons for the USF (https://www.fcc.gov/general/universal-service-fund).
            Rural access is number 1 "high cost"

            Do I think it should be? Yes. But like most things it is not done well in the U.S., because we are a republic of semi-independant nation states that are only nominally under a larger authority.

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            • siringoS
              siringo
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              got in late this morning, sequence of events:

              1 - slept in
              2 - always totally undo shoes so i can slip 'em on easily next day, didn't do that last night
              3 - couldn't find car keys
              4 - had to move things i was taking to work into car 2
              5 - car 2 low of fuel
              6 - thick fog
              7 - stuck behind 2 log trucks, no way to get past

              just gave up and cruised in 30 minutes late.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                In Norcross, GA where AT&T Enterprise fiber gets me 10Mb/s and TMobile cell phone gets me 200Mb/s

                I kid you not.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  In Norcross, GA where AT&T Enterprise fiber gets me 10Mb/s

                  That is the fault of whoever contracted the fiber.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    In Norcross, GA where AT&T Enterprise fiber gets me 10Mb/s

                    That is the fault of whoever contracted the fiber.

                    It's more than that. The TMobile is getting half the latency of the fiber, too!

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      In Norcross, GA where AT&T Enterprise fiber gets me 10Mb/s

                      That is the fault of whoever contracted the fiber.

                      No competition here. AT&T holds all the cards.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        In Norcross, GA where AT&T Enterprise fiber gets me 10Mb/s

                        That is the fault of whoever contracted the fiber.

                        No competition here. AT&T holds all the cards.

                        Sounds like they hold the dark fiber 😉

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                        • EddieJenningsE
                          EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          In Norcross, GA where AT&T Enterprise fiber gets me 10Mb/s and TMobile cell phone gets me 200Mb/s

                          I kid you not.

                          I remember Windstream offering 50/50 for close to $1k / month.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                            last edited by

                            @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            In Norcross, GA where AT&T Enterprise fiber gets me 10Mb/s and TMobile cell phone gets me 200Mb/s

                            I kid you not.

                            I remember Windstream offering 50/50 for close to $1k / month.

                            Sure, but we want a service that actually works.

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                            • gotwfG
                              gotwf
                              last edited by gotwf

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                              Right now, eh?

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                              • siringoS
                                siringo @gotwf
                                last edited by

                                on hold with net support.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  Just finished a rush reinstall of esxi on a loaner host for another client, still need to setup the switch and nics, but that's a tomorrow issue when I drop the equipment off

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                                  • jt1001001J
                                    jt1001001 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller can't upvote that enough

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                                    • EddieJenningsE
                                      EddieJennings
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                                      Just noticed this difference between RHEL and Ubuntu. By default the Bash profile filename is ~/.bash_profile in RHEL and ~/.profile in Ubuntu.

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                                      • gotwfG
                                        gotwf @EddieJennings
                                        last edited by

                                        @eddiejennings Could oft as well have both. .profile is more generic while, duh, .bash_profile is bash. .profile could for e.g. be used to read .kshrc. So groove on it... ✌

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                                          last edited by

                                          @eddiejennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          Just noticed this difference between RHEL and Ubuntu. By default the Bash profile filename is ~/.bash_profile in RHEL and ~/.profile in Ubuntu.

                                          .profile is the official filename from BASH and the universal standard. It predates BASH.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            About to pack. Returning from Pollenville to Dallas today.

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