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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      In some cases, a crazy amount of careful semantics help us to decipher the truth of how things work and find better ways to do things. In this case, it's the opposite. By understanding enough of what the ways to look at this and name it exists, what we discover is that the entire concept of wondering if something is a "cloud app" is foolish as no matter what definition we try to use, the answer will never be useful.

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      • siringoS
        siringo
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        thanks again, it's very helpful to me to be able to ask things like this, as I work alone all the time. Discussing things always helps to expand my knowledge & understanding.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller except if you actually read what he posted it is clear that it is a client-server application and the sever is simply no longer going to be on premises.

          This is a flaming pile of crap from a horrible software company.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @scottalanmiller except if you actually read what he posted it is clear that it is a client-server application and the sever is simply no longer going to be on premises.

            This is a flaming pile of crap from a horrible software company.

            It's horrible. But it is also hosted. So while it's terrible, cloud and hosted don't imply good. It's as hosted as any other hosted app is.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @scottalanmiller except if you actually read what he posted it is clear that it is a client-server application and the sever is simply no longer going to be on premises.

              This is a flaming pile of crap from a horrible software company.

              It's horrible. But it is also hosted. So while it's terrible, cloud and hosted don't imply good. It's as hosted as any other hosted app is.

              Having written a .Net client/server application or two myself 10+ years ago, I feel extremely confident in calling this crap.

              While the server side may be hosted, the client is not. It is still locally installed.

              This will run like a flaming pile of shit.

              Sure, it is possible that the "client" application was completely rewritten and is little more than a front for a web interface. But it is only barely possible.

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              • siringoS
                siringo @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller except if you actually read what he posted it is clear that it is a client-server application and the sever is simply no longer going to be on premises.

                This is a flaming pile of crap from a horrible software company.

                It's horrible. But it is also hosted. So while it's terrible, cloud and hosted don't imply good. It's as hosted as any other hosted app is.

                Having written a .Net client/server application or two myself 10+ years ago, I feel extremely confident in calling this crap.

                While the server side may be hosted, the client is not. It is still locally installed.

                > This will run like a flaming pile of shit.

                Don't hold back, what do you really think :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_closed_eyes:

                I appreciate the input, you guys have more knowledge in this area than I. With what you've said Jared, that's just backing up what I've been thinking & what my advice to them will be and that is to not touch it for at least 12 months.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre @siringo
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                  @siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Don't hold back, what do you really think

                  You've been here long enough. You should know these guys may know the definition of holding back, they do not do it that I've seen, lol.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @siringo
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                    @siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller except if you actually read what he posted it is clear that it is a client-server application and the sever is simply no longer going to be on premises.

                    This is a flaming pile of crap from a horrible software company.

                    It's horrible. But it is also hosted. So while it's terrible, cloud and hosted don't imply good. It's as hosted as any other hosted app is.

                    Having written a .Net client/server application or two myself 10+ years ago, I feel extremely confident in calling this crap.

                    While the server side may be hosted, the client is not. It is still locally installed.

                    > This will run like a flaming pile of shit.

                    Don't hold back, what do you really think :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_closed_eyes:

                    I appreciate the input, you guys have more knowledge in this area than I. With what you've said Jared, that's just backing up what I've been thinking & what my advice to them will be and that is to not touch it for at least 12 months.

                    Why though? Jared could be wrong and it could be a decent client side app. We have no idea what the app in questions is (or I've forgotten it).
                    If it's like email - it could download all of needed data to a local cache and only talk to the server when updates need to be pulled/pushed, could be a great app, or it could be polling the DB constantly and you could have bandwidth issues.

                    Until we know the nature of the system, and until you test the proposed new system in a production environment, We can't know if it will be usable or not?

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      Jared could be wrong and it could be a decent client side app.

                      I even said that!

                      But I still doubt it.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @siringo
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                        @siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        so a program a client uses is moving to the cloud. I had a read of the information available and see that the client software will need to remain on client PCs.

                        Is that common amongst cloud based programs????

                        @Dashrender the original post. Everything about that screams legacy client/server.

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                        • WrCombsW
                          WrCombs
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                          Was just grabbing coffee #2 and looking over the newspaper - Front Page had an article about one of my Customers and how he has "kept his eye on the prize, and opened his 2nd location during the Pandemic."

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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                            @WrCombs What's a news paper?

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                            • WrCombsW
                              WrCombs @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @WrCombs What's a news paper?

                              I added a space that shouldn't have been there - fixed it.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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                                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @WrCombs What's a news paper?

                                I added a space that shouldn't have been there - fixed it.

                                I wasn't giving you crap for news paper or newspaper. I was asking as a millennial would.

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                                • WrCombsW
                                  WrCombs @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @WrCombs What's a news paper?

                                  I added a space that shouldn't have been there - fixed it.

                                  I wasn't giving you crap for news paper or newspaper. I was asking as a millennial would.

                                  oh!
                                  lol regardless, fixed the typo.

                                  I dont know how to think like a millennial.. I'm old enough to know and read the daily news. lol

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                                  • WrCombsW
                                    WrCombs @WrCombs
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                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs What's a news paper?

                                    I added a space that shouldn't have been there - fixed it.

                                    I wasn't giving you crap for news paper or newspaper. I was asking as a millennial would.

                                    oh!
                                    lol regardless, fixed the typo.

                                    I dont know how to think like a millennial.. I'm old enough to know and read the daily news. lol

                                    I guess I am a "Millennial" weird.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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                                      @WrCombs Sadly I fall in that category too

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                                      • WrCombsW
                                        WrCombs @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @WrCombs Sadly I fall in that category too

                                        It's Weird, but hey, it is what it is.
                                        I'm at the very end of it, lol

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch
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                                          WTF St Louis... I left Chicagoland 3 hours ago...
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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
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                                            Yesterday, for the record.

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