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      1337 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller Do flickr pro store the original file as well or just the resampled jpeg?
      Similar to how youtube always re-encodes the video you upload?

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        Obsolesce @1337
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        @Pete-S said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

        @scottalanmiller Do flickr pro store the original file as well or just the resampled jpeg?
        Similar to how youtube always re-encodes the video you upload?

        I have no idea, but I'd imagine they reprocess each pic for their own ML and AI purposes... whether or not they store or show your original I have no idea... good question though.

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          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

          And getting close to hitting up to 100,000 views per day!

          I'm assuming you share these photos with people, or the public?

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            Obsolesce @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

            @scottalanmiller said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

            And getting close to hitting up to 100,000 views per day!

            I'm assuming you share these photos with people, or the public?

            No, 100k daily private views by birds, dolphins... and aliens. No people and certainly not public.

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              scottalanmiller @1337
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              @Pete-S said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

              @scottalanmiller Do flickr pro store the original file as well or just the resampled jpeg?
              Similar to how youtube always re-encodes the video you upload?

              They store original and show compressed. Generally only the owners can download original unless the original is low quality already.

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                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                @scottalanmiller said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                And getting close to hitting up to 100,000 views per day!

                I'm assuming you share these photos with people, or the public?

                Yup, that's really the primary point of Flickr. It's not a photo storage system, but a photo sharing system.

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                  scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                  @Obsolesce said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                  @Dashrender said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                  And getting close to hitting up to 100,000 views per day!

                  I'm assuming you share these photos with people, or the public?

                  No, 100k daily private views by birds, dolphins... and aliens. No people and certainly not public.

                  I'm a big hit, actually, in the dolphin community.

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                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                    @Obsolesce said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                    @Dashrender said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                    And getting close to hitting up to 100,000 views per day!

                    I'm assuming you share these photos with people, or the public?

                    No, 100k daily private views by birds, dolphins... and aliens. No people and certainly not public.

                    I'm a big hit, actually, in the dolphin community.

                    Yeah dolphinitely, it's a fintastic collection!

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                    • NashBrydgesN
                      NashBrydges
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                      Thought I would provide an update.

                      I setup and tested Piwigo and it looks like I will need to abandon that product. There are simple things I would expect (like being able to download an entire album without having to select every single photo and downloading them one at a time) that are missing. While there are some plugins to address some of these shortcomings, these are developed and maintained by the community so there's a risk that a particular add-on may no longer work or stop being developed/supported. The interface is also a bit lacking, confusing and unimaginative.

                      Will move to test something else soon.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
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                        I installed Photoprism last night in a test instance..

                        Imported a few photos form the SD card in the camera.

                        https://photos.daerma.com/s/2vvcab988c/denver-2020

                        Seems to work pretty decent.

                        I have a lot of tinkering to do to see how well things like the duplicate detection works, and whatnot.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @NashBrydges
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                          @NashBrydges said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                          Thought I would provide an update.

                          I setup and tested Piwigo and it looks like I will need to abandon that product. There are simple things I would expect (like being able to download an entire album without having to select every single photo and downloading them one at a time) that are missing. While there are some plugins to address some of these shortcomings, these are developed and maintained by the community so there's a risk that a particular add-on may no longer work or stop being developed/supported. The interface is also a bit lacking, confusing and unimaginative.

                          Will move to test something else soon.

                          Ah, too bad. Had promise.

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                            krzykat @JaredBusch
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                            @JaredBusch noticed that several photos are duplicates, but not exact. Example, taking a photo and then take it again with flash to see which turns out better. Reality is you want only one of those, will it help you identify so you can select which to keep and which to trash?

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                              scottalanmiller @krzykat
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                              @krzykat said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                              will it help you identify so you can select which to keep and which to trash?

                              That's not a dupe in any sense. I don't know of any system that does that.

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                                JaredBusch @krzykat
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                                @krzykat said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                                @JaredBusch noticed that several photos are duplicates, but not exact. Example, taking a photo and then take it again with flash to see which turns out better. Reality is you want only one of those, will it help you identify so you can select which to keep and which to trash?

                                I do not think so. I was not focused on all of the features yet. More on how the entire system works.

                                I do like what I have seen so far. If I decide to keep it, I will need to blow up the test instance and reinstall with enough storage. But first I need to test the connection to Nextcloud/iCloud/etc.

                                But probably will not touch this for a week+ as I'm about to head on site until friday. Client is completely redoing the entire network infrastructure.

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                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  That would require some crazy high end AI for it to compare in that sense.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                                    @krzykat said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                                    will it help you identify so you can select which to keep and which to trash?

                                    That's not a dupe in any sense. I don't know of any system that does that.

                                    Definitely not a duplicate, but similar images should be findable. I think Picasa used to do it.

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                                      krzykat @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller There are systems that do that. Whether this has it or not, I don't know. You've seen where some can actually categorize photos by individual in them. Granted, most of my issue is real duplicates (kind of) ... I'll have the same photo in 6 different folders, then the old ones have different date/time stamps, and would be nice to have the "correct" date/time stamp. Also - get rid of the duplicates of different sizes, such as when you send a photo over your phone to a friend, it makes a copy that is resized. Even with de-duplicators ... its a lot of work.

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                                        scottalanmiller @krzykat
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                                        @krzykat said in Photo Backup And Sharing:

                                        Also - get rid of the duplicates of different sizes, such as when you send a photo over your phone to a friend, it makes a copy that is resized.

                                        That's not a dupe, but a cache. Typically you want those kept so that it doesn't have to recalculate each time. But not always. But that would be a different database mechanism rather than a dupe finder.

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