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@nadnerB said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Damn - this totally happened in my company 2+ years ago. The person in charge of HIPAA compliance and other compliances retired, and they just tossed those jobs onto other people with no changes in compensation.
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@Dashrender This is completely normal and often expected. As a job goes on (hopefully) it gets documented and made quicker to complete as there shouldn't be any hiccups in process.
Things may have even been automated, making it that much easier.
But it is a pretty funny comic.
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@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Dashrender This is completely normal and often expected. As a job goes on (hopefully) it gets documented and made quicker to complete as there shouldn't be any hiccups in process.
Things may have even been automated, making it that much easier.
But it is a pretty funny comic.
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There are also things that can't be automated - reviewing of those reports, providing training to staff, researching new regulations that apply to us, etc. This job was not obsoleted - the duties were simply shift exactly as the graphic shows. The company took back that person's salary, and the responsibilities got split over three people, one of which was me. -
@Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Dashrender This is completely normal and often expected. As a job goes on (hopefully) it gets documented and made quicker to complete as there shouldn't be any hiccups in process.
Things may have even been automated, making it that much easier.
But it is a pretty funny comic.
There are also things that can't be audited - reviewing of those reports, providing training to staff, researching new regulations that apply to us, etc. This job was not obsoleted - the duties were simply shift exactly as the graphic shows. The company took back that person's salary, and the responsibilities got split over three people, one of which was me.
Your not alone. Happened 1.5 years ago here.
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@Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Dashrender This is completely normal and often expected. As a job goes on (hopefully) it gets documented and made quicker to complete as there shouldn't be any hiccups in process.
Things may have even been automated, making it that much easier.
But it is a pretty funny comic.
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There are also things that can't be automated - reviewing of those reports, providing training to staff, researching new regulations that apply to us, etc. This job was not obsoleted - the duties were simply shift exactly as the graphic shows. The company took back that person's salary, and the responsibilities got split over three people, one of which was me.So would a bump in pay have made you able to create more time in the day to get the job done?
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@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Dashrender This is completely normal and often expected. As a job goes on (hopefully) it gets documented and made quicker to complete as there shouldn't be any hiccups in process.
Things may have even been automated, making it that much easier.
But it is a pretty funny comic.
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There are also things that can't be automated - reviewing of those reports, providing training to staff, researching new regulations that apply to us, etc. This job was not obsoleted - the duties were simply shift exactly as the graphic shows. The company took back that person's salary, and the responsibilities got split over three people, one of which was me.So would a bump in pay have made you able to create more time in the day to get the job done?
That wasn't the point, and I would certainly hope you understand that.
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@Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@Dashrender This is completely normal and often expected. As a job goes on (hopefully) it gets documented and made quicker to complete as there shouldn't be any hiccups in process.
Things may have even been automated, making it that much easier.
But it is a pretty funny comic.
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There are also things that can't be automated - reviewing of those reports, providing training to staff, researching new regulations that apply to us, etc. This job was not obsoleted - the duties were simply shift exactly as the graphic shows. The company took back that person's salary, and the responsibilities got split over three people, one of which was me.So would a bump in pay have made you able to create more time in the day to get the job done?
That wasn't the point, and I would certainly hope you understand that.
Well I'm trying to understand your complaint besides the "I'm being told to do more work and not compensated for it".
If that's all you're complaining about, just keep saying "Sorry there just isn't enough time in my day to do that added work" and the business should get the hint.
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@nadnerB I don't get this one.
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@scottalanmiller said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@nadnerB I don't get this one.
At least i'm not the only one
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@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Well I'm trying to understand your complaint besides the "I'm being told to do more work and not compensated for it".
At my job, pay is based on responsibilities. If you are going to add more responsibility to my job, then increase my paycheck. If it is a significant responsibility, then add some significant pay raises.
ESPECIALLY if it is a permanent thing.
I don't mind doing it as a temporary thing or to help out if the person is sick, but if it's going to be permanent, the pay check should go up.
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@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Well I'm trying to understand your complaint besides the "I'm being told to do more work and not compensated for it".
At my job, pay is based on responsibilities. If you are going to add more responsibility to my job, then increase my paycheck. If it is a significant responsibility, then add some significant pay raises.
ESPECIALLY if it is a permanent thing.
I don't mind doing it as a temporary thing or to help out if the person is sick, but if it's going to be permanent, the pay check should go up.
Sure, that makes sense, but what @Dashrender is saying is that his employer thinks that if someone ups and dies that the coworkers around that person should just pick up the work (and seem to actually do this).
Instead of having that conversation of, no more work more pay.
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@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Well I'm trying to understand your complaint besides the "I'm being told to do more work and not compensated for it".
At my job, pay is based on responsibilities. If you are going to add more responsibility to my job, then increase my paycheck. If it is a significant responsibility, then add some significant pay raises.
ESPECIALLY if it is a permanent thing.
I don't mind doing it as a temporary thing or to help out if the person is sick, but if it's going to be permanent, the pay check should go up.
Sure, that makes sense, but what @Dashrender is saying is that his employer thinks that if someone ups and dies that the coworkers around that person should just pick up the work (and seem to actually do this).
Instead of having that conversation of, no more work more pay.
Yeah. But I wouldn't agree to the more work if there wasn't mention of the more pay. My comments would follow something like, "So how much of a pay raise am I getting? None? Oh, okay."
My resume would be plastered online by the COB the next day. Because you know the business is saving the yearly salary plus an unknown overhead for health insurance premiums and stuff like that as well. They can afford to give up a few bucks to the folks that step up when needed.
I really liked that one job I worked at (Flexsteel) actually printed out a statement yearly of what your actual pay was (including the cost of benefits that the company paid for you, and a lot of the other hidden costs that most employees don't think about). It was an eye opener, for sure, and that was 16 years ago.
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@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Well I'm trying to understand your complaint besides the "I'm being told to do more work and not compensated for it".
At my job, pay is based on responsibilities. If you are going to add more responsibility to my job, then increase my paycheck. If it is a significant responsibility, then add some significant pay raises.
ESPECIALLY if it is a permanent thing.
I don't mind doing it as a temporary thing or to help out if the person is sick, but if it's going to be permanent, the pay check should go up.
Sure, that makes sense, but what @Dashrender is saying is that his employer thinks that if someone ups and dies that the coworkers around that person should just pick up the work (and seem to actually do this).
Instead of having that conversation of, no more work more pay.
My job does expect this - and they simply do it - it's up to the employees to push back... in this case, I didn't think there was a need to push back... but others disagree.
I said nothing like what you said I said. I simply said "They tossed those jobs onto other people with no change in compensation"
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@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Well I'm trying to understand your complaint besides the "I'm being told to do more work and not compensated for it".
At my job, pay is based on responsibilities. If you are going to add more responsibility to my job, then increase my paycheck. If it is a significant responsibility, then add some significant pay raises.
ESPECIALLY if it is a permanent thing.
I don't mind doing it as a temporary thing or to help out if the person is sick, but if it's going to be permanent, the pay check should go up.
Sure, that makes sense, but what @Dashrender is saying is that his employer thinks that if someone ups and dies that the coworkers around that person should just pick up the work (and seem to actually do this).
Instead of having that conversation of, no more work more pay.
Yeah. But I wouldn't agree to the more work if there wasn't mention of the more pay. My comments would follow something like, "So how much of a pay raise am I getting? None? Oh, okay."
My resume would be plastered online by the COB the next day. Because you know the business is saving the yearly salary plus an unknown overhead for health insurance premiums and stuff like that as well. They can afford to give up a few bucks to the folks that step up when needed.
I really liked that one job I worked at (Flexsteel) actually printed out a statement yearly of what your actual pay was (including the cost of benefits that the company paid for you, and a lot of the other hidden costs that most employees don't think about). It was an eye opener, for sure, and that was 16 years ago.
I assume they did that individually? that they didn't post a sheet somewhere with all salary information about every employee on it somewhere... lol
But yes, it's amazing how much an employee costs a company (compensation (to include pay, healthcare costs, 401K contribution) + SS matching + unemployment "insurance" + bonus/profit sharing + etc)
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@Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
@DustinB3403 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
Well I'm trying to understand your complaint besides the "I'm being told to do more work and not compensated for it".
At my job, pay is based on responsibilities. If you are going to add more responsibility to my job, then increase my paycheck. If it is a significant responsibility, then add some significant pay raises.
ESPECIALLY if it is a permanent thing.
I don't mind doing it as a temporary thing or to help out if the person is sick, but if it's going to be permanent, the pay check should go up.
Sure, that makes sense, but what @Dashrender is saying is that his employer thinks that if someone ups and dies that the coworkers around that person should just pick up the work (and seem to actually do this).
Instead of having that conversation of, no more work more pay.
Yeah. But I wouldn't agree to the more work if there wasn't mention of the more pay. My comments would follow something like, "So how much of a pay raise am I getting? None? Oh, okay."
My resume would be plastered online by the COB the next day. Because you know the business is saving the yearly salary plus an unknown overhead for health insurance premiums and stuff like that as well. They can afford to give up a few bucks to the folks that step up when needed.
I really liked that one job I worked at (Flexsteel) actually printed out a statement yearly of what your actual pay was (including the cost of benefits that the company paid for you, and a lot of the other hidden costs that most employees don't think about). It was an eye opener, for sure, and that was 16 years ago.
I assume they did that individually? that they didn't post a sheet somewhere with all salary information about every employee on it somewhere... lol
But yes, it's amazing how much an employee costs a company (compensation (to include pay, healthcare costs, 401K contribution) + SS matching + unemployment "insurance" + bonus/profit sharing + etc)
No, they didn't post a list, lol. That would have pissed off a lot of people. Everybody got one mailed to them or handed to them by their super.
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@Dashrender said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:
But yes, it's amazing how much an employee costs a company (compensation (to include pay, healthcare costs, 401K contribution) + SS matching + unemployment "insurance" + bonus/profit sharing + etc)
People who've never had to hire someone really don't get how much this is. Even "low cost" labor workers with no special benefits (no bonuses and whatnot) are still crazy expensive. That $10/hr "minimum wage" worker is likely going to cost you more like $16-17/hr to compensate before you pay for any equipment that they need to do their jobs.
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Microsoft is ridiculously cavalier with "Your device is up to date." It literally says that no matter what the status is. I've never seen it say anything but that, and I've almost never seen a machine that was even kind of up to date.
