NAS for Plex use... Again
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@marcinozga said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
I had the same experience with 4k, on local storage, even before I moved to Gdrive. General consensus is not to transcode 4k files at all, because it's so taxing on your system, and just download 1080p version and keep both.
I agree, I'm in the anti-transcoding camp.
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My idea is:
Option 1:
Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) with 16 Tb of storage and Plex on that same VM.
This way, the data never leaves the host and has maximum efficiency.
OROption 2:
Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) as a "NAS" with NFS shares for content.
Point existing Plex Vm at the new NAS.
Data would traverse network between 2 hosts unless Plex was migrated to other host. -
@brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
My idea is:
Option 1:
Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) with 16 Tb of storage and Plex on that same VM.
This way, the data never leaves the host and has maximum efficiency.
OROption 2:
Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) as a "NAS" with NFS shares for content.
Point existing Plex Vm at the new NAS.
Data would traverse network between 2 hosts unless Plex was migrated to other host.I have option 2, but CentOS 7 and only one host with all my guests.
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@brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
My idea is:
Option 1:
Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) with 16 Tb of storage and Plex on that same VM.
This way, the data never leaves the host and has maximum efficiency.
OROption 2:
Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) as a "NAS" with NFS shares for content.
Point existing Plex Vm at the new NAS.
Data would traverse network between 2 hosts unless Plex was migrated to other host.Option 1. Less complexity, less things to fail. Although I prefer containers rather than VM.
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@brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
My idea is:
Option 1:
Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) with 16 Tb of storage and Plex on that same VM.
This way, the data never leaves the host and has maximum efficiency.
OROption 2:
Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) as a "NAS" with NFS shares for content.
Point existing Plex Vm at the new NAS.
Data would traverse network between 2 hosts unless Plex was migrated to other host.What about Option 3:
Exactly like Option 2, but migrate Plex VM to same host as the new storage? Avoid traversing the physical network for the Plex backend. -
@travisdh1 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
What about Option 3:
Exactly like Option 2, but migrate Plex VM to same host as the new storage? Avoid traversing the physical network for the Plex backend.I thought about this too. Could set up another virtual switch between the NAS and Plex. It makes the most sense actually.
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@travisdh1 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
Exactly like Option 2, but migrate Plex VM to same host as the new storage? Avoid traversing the physical network for the Plex backend.
That is what I do.
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@JaredBusch said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
@travisdh1 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
Exactly like Option 2, but migrate Plex VM to same host as the new storage? Avoid traversing the physical network for the Plex backend.
That is what I do.
Do you just have those 2 VMs on a host by themselves? I see that they are the only 2 listed after the list -all command.
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@brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
@JaredBusch said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
@travisdh1 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
Exactly like Option 2, but migrate Plex VM to same host as the new storage? Avoid traversing the physical network for the Plex backend.
That is what I do.
Do you just have those 2 VMs on a host by themselves? I see that they are the only 2 listed after the list -all command.
Only because I do not need anything else at home.
I have a host in colo for work stuff and then Vultr for things.
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@JaredBusch I have Hyper-V at home with Nginx, Nextcloud, Bookstack, PiHole, and Plex. Don't have a colo close enough. My internet service with 1 static is cheaper than the cost of colo.
I haven't had a good enough reason to move away from Hyper-V yet. I always contemplate it. I've had a spare server with KVM in my lab and it was great and light on resources.
What made you switch from Hyper-V?
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I do have my Unifi controller on Vultr and use it for "lab" if I need a public IP for various stuff. I plan on setting up a FreePBX instance for testing but haven't yet.
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@brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
@JaredBusch I have Hyper-V at home with Nginx, Nextcloud, Bookstack, PiHole, and Plex. Don't have a colo close enough. My internet service with 1 static is cheaper than the cost of colo.
I haven't had a good enough reason to move away from Hyper-V yet. I always contemplate it. I've had a spare server with KVM in my lab and it was great and light on resources.
What made you switch from Hyper-V?
I went from Hyper-V (Desktop), Fedora KVM (Desktop,R710) and now using Proxmox (R710). Proxmox is by far the most convenient one for my home environment.
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@black3dynamite said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
@brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
@JaredBusch I have Hyper-V at home with Nginx, Nextcloud, Bookstack, PiHole, and Plex. Don't have a colo close enough. My internet service with 1 static is cheaper than the cost of colo.
I haven't had a good enough reason to move away from Hyper-V yet. I always contemplate it. I've had a spare server with KVM in my lab and it was great and light on resources.
What made you switch from Hyper-V?
I went from Hyper-V (Desktop), Fedora KVM (Desktop,R710) and now using Proxmox (R710). Proxmox is by far the most convenient one for my home environment.
Same here, more or less. Same conclusion.
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@brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
My idea is:
Option 1:
Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) with 16 Tb of storage and Plex on that same VM.
This way, the data never leaves the host and has maximum efficiency.
OROption 2:
Set up a new raid10 volume on my host with my spare drive bays.
Install a new VM (Fedora 32 server) as a "NAS" with NFS shares for content.
Point existing Plex Vm at the new NAS.
Data would traverse network between 2 hosts unless Plex was migrated to other host.Yes, why wouldn't you do the bolded part - which is what other people are now calling option 3 LOL
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I've been using Hyper-V for a while, almost exclusively. I use it at work, and for other clients. I have not found a good enough reason to switch over to another hypervisor. Sadly, its the only real reason I still keep a Windows laptop - to manage Hyper-V. Windows Admin Center is a dumpster fire IMO. All my HV installs are non-GUI.
I had Proxmox running in my lab for a while with a few test VMs and it worked great. I just have flashbacks of many people being against it for so long. I know that is not a valid reason to not use something but...
Again, with HV being free and having no issues with it - makes it hard to justify switching, although the web management of Proxmox would be nice. Another advantage of HV is that Veeam works so well with it.
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@brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
I just have flashbacks of many people being against it for so long.
Because it sucked. But....
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@brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
Sadly, its the only real reason I still keep a Windows laptop - to manage Hyper-V.
This is why I do not use it.
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@JaredBusch said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
@brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
Sadly, its the only real reason I still keep a Windows laptop - to manage Hyper-V.
This is why I do not use it.
This is something MS is just totally failing at with Hyper-V.
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KVM with Cockpit could be perfect if it were a bit more polished.
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@brandon220 said in NAS for Plex use... Again:
KVM with Cockpit could be perfect if it were a bit more polished.
It's getting there. But ProxMox has just so much more at this point.
