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      Jimmy9008
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      Hi folks,

      We have about 450 desktops running Windows 10 Pro OEM. What would be a good route to get these all to Enterprise?

      Licensing is not an area I have looked in to, but I recall a while back hearing that with 1 x volume license for Enterprise with Software Assurance, you have the rights to re-image every Windows 10 Pro OEM to Enterprise.

      Does anybody have any details on that?

      Best,
      Jim

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      • jmooreJ
        jmoore
        last edited by

        With that many isn't volume licensing the best choice?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
          last edited by

          @Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

          What would be a good route to get these all to Enterprise?

          There is only one path... volume licensing.

          Or, I guess, Intune might be an option now?

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            Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

            @Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

            What would be a good route to get these all to Enterprise?

            There is only one path... volume licensing.

            Or, I guess, Intune might be an option now?

            With volume licensing, do I need an agreement that has 1 x Enterprise license for each for the 450 machines, or as long as the OEM was Pro, do I only need 1 x Enterprise license to cover the entire site?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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              @Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

              1 x volume license for Enterprise with Software Assurance, you have the rights to re-image every Windows 10 Pro OEM to Enterprise.

              No, that's with Pro. Enterprise is unnecessary. But that's only Volume Licensing, that is correct.

              But you can't get to Enterprise that way. You are mixing two totally different concepts...

              1. Acquiring 450 copies of Enterprise
              2. Changing your imaging rights for the 450 copies of Pro you already have.

              Very, very different things.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
                last edited by

                @Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                @Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                What would be a good route to get these all to Enterprise?

                There is only one path... volume licensing.

                Or, I guess, Intune might be an option now?

                With volume licensing, do I need an agreement that has 1 x Enterprise license for each for the 450 machines, or as long as the OEM was Pro, do I only need 1 x Enterprise license to cover the entire site?

                Enterprise is an upgrade to Pro. To get Enterprise for 450 existing Pro devices, you need to acquire 450 Enterprise upgrade licenses.

                There is never a 1x "upgrade" anything option in anything. That's not a thing at all.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  Why do you want Enterprise?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    For Enterprise, there isn't any complexity. Every Enterprise install required Pro to already be installed, and you buy an expensive upgrade to Enterprise on top of it.

                    So 450 devices, easily $40,000.

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                      Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                      Why do you want Enterprise?

                      It has extra security features that senior folk want. I dont really need to know why they want it pushed out, but need to know how and costs.

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                        Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                        For Enterprise, there isn't any complexity. Every Enterprise install required Pro to already be installed, and you buy an expensive upgrade to Enterprise on top of it.

                        So 450 devices, easily $40,000.

                        So, I would need a volume license pretty much for 450 x Windows 10 Enterprise with SA?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
                          last edited by

                          @Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                          For Enterprise, there isn't any complexity. Every Enterprise install required Pro to already be installed, and you buy an expensive upgrade to Enterprise on top of it.

                          So 450 devices, easily $40,000.

                          So, I would need a volume license pretty much for 450 x Windows 10 Enterprise with SA?

                          Correct. Enterprise is insanely costly. You are basically buying the OS again for each and every machine.

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                            bnrstnr
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                            We had to get a couple licenses for Enterprise + SA a few years ago and they were $292 each... You'll probably get some kind of discount for 450 licenses, but I don't know how much.

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                              scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
                              last edited by

                              @bnrstnr said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                              We had to get a couple licenses for Enterprise + SA a few years ago and they were $292 each... You'll probably get some kind of discount for 450 licenses, but I don't know how much.

                              Oh damn, so more like $120K!!

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                                bnrstnr
                                last edited by bnrstnr

                                Another option is Windows 10 Enterprise E3 "starting at $7/month" lol, so $38k a year.

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                                  Jimmy9008
                                  last edited by

                                  @bnrstnr said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                                  E3 "starting at $7/month" lol, so $38k a yea

                                  Ok, cheers guys. Some good information to start looking at this. Appreciated.

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                                  • dbeatoD
                                    dbeato @bnrstnr
                                    last edited by

                                    @bnrstnr said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                                    Another option is Windows 10 Enterprise E3 "starting at $7/month" lol, so $38k a year.

                                    Yeah, that is one option and it works well to get the Windows 10 Business license which can be accomplished by joining the computers in Hybrid Mode with Office 365 to Azure AD.

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                                      PhlipElder @Jimmy9008
                                      last edited by

                                      @Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                                      Hi folks,

                                      We have about 450 desktops running Windows 10 Pro OEM. What would be a good route to get these all to Enterprise?

                                      Licensing is not an area I have looked in to, but I recall a while back hearing that with 1 x volume license for Enterprise with Software Assurance, you have the rights to re-image every Windows 10 Pro OEM to Enterprise.

                                      Does anybody have any details on that?

                                      Best,
                                      Jim

                                      Where's your mail?

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                                        @Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                                        What would be a good route to get these all to Enterprise?

                                        There is only one path... volume licensing.

                                        Or, I guess, Intune might be an option now?

                                        Microsoft has several paths for this now.

                                        Enterprise used to be a perk of buying SA for your Windows Pro licenses, then a few years ago, they broke enterprise out into it's own license.
                                        Then they added Enterprise as part of E3 and better O365 licenses,
                                        Now they have it as part of the M365 line as well.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Jimmy9008 you definitely want to look at this more holistically along with your Office products, assuming you're using MS Office/O365/M365/Intune/AAD, etc.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by scottalanmiller

                                            @Dashrender said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:

                                            Then they added Enterprise as part of E3 and better O365 licenses,

                                            I think you mean M365, not O365. Do they really offer it now in the regular Office levels?

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