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    • stacksofplatesS
      stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

      @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

      Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

      This doens't look bad either. But those limits feel low. But I guess with no limit to the bases, you could get used to jsut replicating things yearly or something and get around that.

      https://airtable.com/pricing

      Yeah I've only used it for small stuff so I haven't went above the limitations.

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      • stacksofplatesS
        stacksofplates
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        One other plus to it is the native app. It works pretty well.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @stacksofplates
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          @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

          Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

          Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

          yup, guessed it
          0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender that's a costly offering. I bet, though, if someone really needed it, that they would do it. It just costs a lot.

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

              @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

              Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

              Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

              yup, guessed it
              0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

              You are trying to design something in house to store PHI? 🤦

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

                Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

                yup, guessed it
                0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

                Well I mean that seems like it should have been mentioned in the op?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @IRJ
                  last edited by

                  @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                  @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                  @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                  Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

                  Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

                  yup, guessed it
                  0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

                  You are trying to design something in house to store PHI? 🤦

                  We already do - it's called an excel spreadsheet.

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ
                    last edited by

                    I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                      @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                      @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                      @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                      Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

                      Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

                      yup, guessed it
                      0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

                      You are trying to design something in house to store PHI? 🤦

                      We already do - it's called an excel spreadsheet.

                      Excel spreadsheet and web app are totally different. Web apps have so many more component and holes in them that you have to be worried about.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                        last edited by

                        @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                        @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                        @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                        Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

                        Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

                        yup, guessed it
                        0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

                        Well I mean that seems like it should have been mentioned in the op?

                        It kind of is. "At this time." Anyone who understands what it would cost will know to reach out. Anyone who thinks that they should reach out and find out what it will cost, won't be happy with the answer.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @IRJ
                          last edited by

                          @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                          I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                          This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                            @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                            I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                            This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                            🤦

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                              @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                              @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                              @stacksofplates said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                              Airtable is a good tool for this kind of stuff

                              Nice, though I'm guessing not HIPAA compliant (or at least they won't sign a BA for it)...

                              yup, guessed it
                              0f99e8af-f1b0-4fa6-91fd-1e096e2fd25f-image.png

                              Well I mean that seems like it should have been mentioned in the op?

                              It kind of is. "At this time." Anyone who understands what it would cost will know to reach out. Anyone who thinks that they should reach out and find out what it will cost, won't be happy with the answer.

                              What are you talking about? I'm saying if he needed his app to be HIPAA compliant he should have mentioned it in the op.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                Excel has that code review, and depends 100% on Windows OS security.

                                I think IRJ is really referring to bespoke networked software. If you were making a notepad replacement that just highlighted certain phrases and only edited local text files that are already protected by the OS... I don't think that that is what he means.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                  @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                  @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                  I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                  This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                  Excel has that code review, and depends 100% on Windows OS security.

                                  Yes

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @IRJ
                                    last edited by

                                    @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                    @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                    @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                    I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                    This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                    🤦

                                    Well - I still don't make the decisions.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                      @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                      @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                      I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                      This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                      Excel has that code review, and depends 100% on Windows OS security.

                                      Yes

                                      Interesting - so you don't consider any software that hasn't gone through code review good enough to store PHI or PCI, etc type data?

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                        @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                        @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                        @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                        I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                        This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                        Excel has that code review, and depends 100% on Windows OS security.

                                        Yes

                                        Interesting - so you don't consider any software that hasn't gone through code review good enough to store PHI or PCI, etc type data?

                                        Yup.

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                                        • IRJI
                                          IRJ @Dashrender
                                          last edited by IRJ

                                          @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                          @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                          @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                          @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                          I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                          This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                          🤦

                                          Well - I still don't make the decisions.

                                          I dont make final decisions either, but that doesnt mean I wont fight doing the wrong thing.

                                          Its your job to say NO sometimes. Plain and simple. If you dont say NO to something like this you aren't doing your job.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @IRJ
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                                            @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                            @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                            @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                            @Dashrender said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                            @IRJ said in AppGini - building a webpage/db:

                                            I would say there is a never a case where you want to design something in house to store PHI. Unless, of course you are a software company that is willing to go through things like external code review, pen testing, HIPAA certification, etc. It is just a HUGE risk that could potentially put your upper management in a hot seat (or prison) if there is a breach.

                                            This is in-house for in-house use only. How is this any worse than storing PHI in Excel?

                                            🤦

                                            Well - I still don't make the decisions.

                                            I dont make final decisions either, but that doesnt mean I will fight doing the wrong thing.

                                            Its your job to say NO sometimes. Plain and simple. If you dont say NO to something like this you aren't doing your job.

                                            Interesting - I'm seriously believing that my EHR company doesn't have code review, other than internal review - is that good enough?

                                            So basically, you're staying I'm stuck - I'm forced to hire someone to custom write me a system, and then hire someone to review that software before I can actually use something.

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